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Old 01-21-2010, 09:10 AM
 
Location: PA
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Aloha! Thank you to everyone to replied to my last post - your thoughts are much appreciated!

As mentioned in my last post, my partner and I are currently seriously considering a move to Hawaii. Currently, we live near NYC and Philadelphia, and thus we believe we would be most suited for Oahu. We suppose that we would have the most luck finding employment in Honolulu, so we have narrowed our preferred living area to somewhere closer to the city. We don't mind a commute (NYC traffic is not for the light hearted ), but we also wouldn't mind living in the city either. We would prefer to be at least a 15-20 minute drive to a beach that is great for swimming (small waves).

We have looked in the Kailua area, which seems wonderful, but possibily a little more expensive than other areas. The thing is, over the internet it is difficult to establish if the less expensive areas are dangerous, crime-ridden, or drug infested. We are two females in our early 30s, who are not into getting beat up, robbed, or buying drugs.

Does anyone have suggestions as to where not to live on Oahu? Also, are there any specific areas in Honolulu that we should avoid? We understand that city living/less expensive living comes with risks, we are just hoping to avoid the really bad areas.

Thank you for your help! Mahalo!
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Old 01-21-2010, 09:31 AM
 
Location: hawaii!
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check out the sticky thread hawaii city by city...i found a TON of great information in it. good luck!
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:20 AM
 
Location: uNDERwORLD
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i used to live and work in nyc and live in hnl now and the difference is like night and day.
in hnl i never feel in any danger at any time of night anywhere even in downtown which is rather empty and dead after 5. even chinatown which used to be the dodgiest area now has some great clubs and art galleries and a semi-weekly art walk.
in nyc, i once had a street thug wave his screwdriver in my face asking for my money and i waved my .380 ppk down his throat to get him to remove his request.
hnl is closer to tokyo in the safe clean big city category than nyc which is at the other end of the big city spectrum.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:15 AM
 
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i used to live and work in nyc and live in hnl now and the difference is like night and day.
in hnl i never feel in any danger at any time of night anywhere even in downtown which is rather empty and dead after 5. even chinatown which used to be the dodgiest area now has some great clubs and art galleries and a semi-weekly art walk.
in nyc, i once had a street thug wave his screwdriver in my face asking for my money and i waved my .380 ppk down his throat to get him to remove his request.
hnl is closer to tokyo in the safe clean big city category than nyc which is at the other end of the big city spectrum.

When and where did you live and work in NYC? Your story sounds like, let's just say, like a story. Today, NYC is up there with Honolulu as the safest big cities in the world. Here's a link, more can be found to validate. Safest Cities in America: City Crime Rankings Name the Safest and Most Dangerous Cities in US

I agree HNL is safe for the most part but Safe for whom? How safe is a haole kid walking down the street in a "locals only" neighborhood at the wrong time of night? Maybe things have changed over the years but I remember back in the day a few joyous occasions being in the wrong place at the wrong time and being happy to walk away with just my pockets empty. It's been 20 years, but as I recall it was part of a friendly game called "search take". Is that still common?

As a peresent day NYer with several stops in between I feel safer in NYC than I did in HNL. Of course with a little age and wisdom I no longer put myself in the situations I did when young and careless.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:33 AM
 
Location: uNDERwORLD
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manhattan in mid 80s.
in the early 90s nyc had almost 2000 murders in one year while countries like the uk and japan had less than 10% of that.
know rudy and bloomie have greatly decreased crime but you still have your harlems, bed stuys,lower east sides,bronxes,etc.
and i'm not haole and didn't grow up here so don't know what it would be like. still, would rather deal with some taunting bruddas from waianae than gangbangers from east harlem.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:40 AM
 
Location: PA
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Thank you both for the info!

katiem8 - As suggested, I did check out the sticky thead hawaii city by city. Very informative! However, I did not see a great variety of areas on Oahu. Hopefully this forum's kind responders will add to that sticky thread. Thanks again!

dreamisland - Very funny! I'm so happy to hear that Honolulu is very different from NYC. I suppose my partner and I are just too friendly and kind-hearted to fight the Northeast rat race every day. I had a drugged up crazy guy fondle himself in front of a group of children one day, while the police walked by!! I am so excited about our upcoming visit to Oahu. I have a feeling it might be the right place to call home. One question: do you feel that Honolulu is a very "liveable" city? We are hoping to start a family soon.

Mahalo!
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:23 PM
 
Location: uNDERwORLD
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i find it very liveable and just enjoy the beaches and clubs every day due to being semi-retired and good investments.
but many of my younger friends do have problems with money and revolving roommates. it is good if one has a good paying job or nest egg but i realize it is not as easy for the younger working crowd. some of my surfing buddies are working so many hours to make ends meet, that they hardly ever get to go out on the waves with me. so i just call them at work and tell them how great the waves are.
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Old 01-22-2010, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Far from home...
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On the flip side I remember watching some big moke wave a screwdriver in my blonde haired brother's face saying, "You like go home witchyour eye?!"
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:14 AM
 
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manhattan in mid 80s.
in the early 90s nyc had almost 2000 murders in one year while countries like the uk and japan had less than 10% of that.
know rudy and bloomie have greatly decreased crime but you still have your harlems, bed stuys,lower east sides,bronxes,etc.
and i'm not haole and didn't grow up here so don't know what it would be like. still, would rather deal with some taunting bruddas from waianae than gangbangers from east harlem.
2000 murders in NY alone? in one year? thats not true at all.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Hawaii-Puna District
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2000 murders in NY alone? in one year? thats not true at all.
True. The record was 2245 in 1990.

File:NYC murders.PNG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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