i support john kasich,hes trying to save ohio (New Albany: sale, how much)

[chet_kinkaid]

we need to give him a chance..hes trying to bring new ideas ..trying to help the state compete..thank god we have ppl who care about ohio and want to make it better,i also support mayor coleman of columbus..its not about parties ..its about trying to make ohio competetive and prosperous.

[buzzards27]

maybe you can help me, what is kasich doing to "SAVE" Ohio?

Originally Posted by chet_kinkaid

we need to give him a chance..hes trying to bring new ideas ..trying to help the state compete..thank god we have ppl who care about ohio and want to make it better,i also support mayor coleman of columbus..its not about parties ..its about trying to make ohio competetive and prosperous.

Jobs Ohio? He is taking the $228 Million yearly tax revenue from the sale of booze for the next 30 years and "SELLING" it to a Wall Street investors for $1.5 Billion.

Two problems I see. We were told that Jobs Ohio was going to pay for itself. Apparently, kasich is going to take the $228 Million away from whatever it was funding to pay for his new completely unproven program.

And it doesn't take any more than 3rd grade math to figure that kasich is selling us all out to Wall Street AGAIN. $228,000,000 times 30 years is $6,840,000,000. Than is 6.84 BILLION in revenue that Kasich is going to "sell" to his Friends on Wall Street for $1.5 Billion.

The really interesting part is what he and this Jobs Ohio program need this money for. I sure hope it isn't to hand out to big business... I mean that would be real wealth REDISTRIBUTION. Take $6.84 billion from the sale of booze to the middle class and hand it to wall street, wall street gives Ohio less that 25% back and Ohio hand a good part of that off to try and attract new businesses to Ohio??? Big win for big business, again....


That is saving Ohio???

Wall Street Math: Jobs Ohio funding “resolved” | Ohio Budget Watch

[Peregrine]

I was willing to give him a chance after he got elected.
I like his desire to shake things up a bit,.

But he's failing if you ask me. Cutting funding to cities? So the cities are going to have to make up that money.... by laying more taxes on our citizens and our companies. Great plan there Johnny.

[davery5872]

Originally Posted by Peregrine

I was willing to give him a chance after he got elected.
I like his desire to shake things up a bit,.

But he's failing if you ask me. Cutting funding to cities? So the cities are going to have to make up that money.... by laying more taxes on our citizens and our companies. Great plan there Johnny.

It's all part of the plan. Propose SB 5 to take away the collective bargaining. He knew it would not be easy, so to add a little extra emphasis he reduced what the state is paying to cities, schools, etc. This will cause the cities, schools, etc to place levies on the ballot in November. So when you get to the ballot box in Nov the choice will be either to accept the SB 5 referendum and vote down the local levies (thinking that SB5 will take care of it). Or rejecting SB 5 and passing the local levies. Which will mean higher taxes. Option 1 means no higher taxes and option 2 does. They are banking on people picking the first option. Of course that being said, the wild card in all this is the anticipated constitutional amendment to recall all elected officials. So the 2nd option could be reject SB5, pass or reject local levies, and pass the constitutional amendment. The thinking being to recall the politician's responsible for this defunding of cities and schools and start the budget process over. Maybe in a more collaborated way.

[buzzards27]

The other ways kasich plans to "SAVE" Ohio is selling off the turnpike, prisons and who knows what else....

What's the problem with that? Private companies, often foreign companies, take over our public functions and use them for their profits. Keep in mind that a private company is a FOR PROFIT operation while the state is not. Both want to reduce costs as much as they can but a private company need to show a profit. How do they do that? Cut staff, cut pay, cut benefits, cut corners, cut maintenance, provide sub-standard services, etc. These cuts will mean less money going into the pockets of Ohioans that work at the jobs that survive. And when an out of state company takes over a public function any profits, our tax dollars, they squeeze out of the operation leave the state.

We all lose, a piece of our tax dollars go into the pocket of big out of state corporations, middle class wages and benefits are reduced again, and we will receive sub-standard services because of lower quality and fewer employees and other cost savings measures made by the companies...

[Cleveland_Collector]

People have given him a chance and have come to the conclusion that the only thing he's trying to "save" is his own future with his cronies. In 3 months, he has decided to attack 100,000 working families, sell off state assets for a song, and defer the tax load from the state to municipalities while allowing an already deferred tax break for the top 2% to go through and then erradicating the estate tax (which pretty much only affects the dumbest rich people since there are already so many ways to get around much of it). Up next: float bonds and pretend they don't cost us anything (how else does one think they can replace the lost revenue?). I disagree with all of it and, especially, the bully tactics being used by his administration to force it through. And, pretty much every poll shows that I'm in the majority.

You also have to ask yourself: How smart and/or able is a guy who lost Ohio a half billion dollars in pension funds and then gives away $400 million in grants? I'd tend to think that a guy who puts a state a billion dollars in the hole before he even takes office isn't exactly at a prime level of competence.

[Crew Chief]

Originally Posted by buzzards27

The other ways kasich plans to "SAVE" Ohio is selling off the turnpike, prisons and who knows what else....

What's the problem with that? Private companies, often foreign companies, take over our public functions and use them for their profits. Keep in mind that a private company is a FOR PROFIT operation while the state is not. Both want to reduce costs as much as they can but a private company need to show a profit. How do they do that? Cut staff, cut pay, cut benefits, cut corners, cut maintenance, provide sub-standard services, etc. These cuts will mean less money going into the pockets of Ohioans that work at the jobs that survive. And when an out of state company takes over a public function any profits, our tax dollars, they squeeze out of the operation leave the state.

We all lose, a piece of our tax dollars go into the pocket of big out of state corporations, middle class wages and benefits are reduced again, and we will receive sub-standard services because of lower quality and fewer employees and other cost savings measures made by the companies...

AMEN!!! And just why in the world would anyone with a brain think that a private sector contractor would save the taxpayers any money??? Oh, maybe the first year of the contract, they may get a slightly lower fee from the government so their political hack enablers can gloat. But you know that as soon as nobody's paying attention, that service will suddenly cost the taxpayers MORE than when government workers, who were getting paid honest wages, were performing it. And ONCE AGAIN, the greedy Robber Barons will be screwing the taxpayers... MAN, the Tea Baggers are frickin' brain-dead...

[buzzards27]

Here is another way kasich is NOT saving Ohio. He claims he gave Bob Evans $8 million of OUR TAX DOLLARS last week to keep them from moving their headquarter out of Ohio. Well, he is lying to everyone of us. The engineering for Bob Evans' new headquarters in New Albany, OHIO has been going on for months and site prep and construction of the new headquarters has been going on for weeks now, weeks before kasich handed them our money to keep them here.

Development on Bob Evans’ new HQ started weeks before Kasich announcement

Another kasich give away to big business, and one that didn't even need to be made. Sorta reminds me of the EPA permit that kasich claimed he "Fast-tracked" when it fact the hold up was not the EPA but a business that was intentionally withholding documents from Strickland's EPA and waiting until kasich took office to get easier terms on its permit....

Is this guy going to lie every time he steps up to a mic?

Originally Posted by Crew Chief

AMEN!!! And just why in the world would anyone with a brain think that a private sector contractor would save the taxpayers any money??? Oh, maybe the first year of the contract, they may get a slightly lower fee from the government so their political hack enablers can gloat. But you know that as soon as nobody's paying attention, that service will suddenly cost the taxpayers MORE than when government workers, who were getting paid honest wages, were performing it. And ONCE AGAIN, the greedy Robber Barons will be screwing the taxpayers... MAN, the Tea Baggers are frickin' brain-dead...

[Cleveland_Collector]

Don't change the subject.

Besides, going down the path you're headed down is sure to make you look foolish. For one, Obama had the balls to actually put the costs for Iraq and Afghanistan on the books. This is something Mr. Bush never seemed to be able to be comprehend. Up until 2 years ago, $3 TRILLION worth of wars went entirely unbudgeted. You and the hack news outlets that render your daily brain-melting may want to try considering that.

[buzzards27]

why you changing the subject?

are you sure you wanta go there?

You do know that the 2009 budget was largely Bush's budget, right. Sorry that is how it works, Obama adopted Bush's budget in 2009.

You might wanta take a look at this chart before you blame ANY dem prez for how much they raised the debt. R's have been much worse. The first term of Bush II he increased the debt 23% and his second term he raised it 19%. Check how much your hero Reagun raised debt. 49% and 40%. You're all of a sudden worried about 6% in one year?

National debt by U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by weeeez

A billion dollars in the hole is nothing, our savior in the white house has raised the national debt by 3 trillion dollars in 2 years.