Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Columbus vying for 2016 Political Conventions (neighborhood, vs)

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Kamms

I don't why you will not elaborate on your ''absolute minimum'' expectations for COL in the DNC competition. I mean you are Mr. Columbus on this forum. I believe it's because you think COL is our of its league in trying to land the DNC and the article from the PD last March about CLE possibly losing to COL was accurate.

Not a big deal but maybe you shouldn't minimize COL in the DNC competition without including a reason.

I defend Columbus when I think people are being factually untrue, or against ridiculous claims, but I'm still a realist at heart. Columbus is up against much larger cities with much larger pools of resources. So while I think Columbus, unlike you, is more than capable of pulling it off, I'm not going to hold my breath against the competition.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Kamms

Not spite as much as I think Columbus is not qualified to handle this type of event. I think you're referring to the spite and lack of support or endoresements from COL and CIN for CLE after it became one of the four finalists, then during the final competition between CLE and Dallas.

Okay. Specifically, what makes it unqualified to hold the event when it seems perfectly capable of already holding larger events? If this is not just spite, you should have some compelling reasons. I'm not talking about other cities perhaps being better suited for it because that's not what you said. Why is Columbus not qualified?

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

Okay. Specifically, what makes it unqualified to hold the event when it seems perfectly capable of already holding larger events? If this is not just spite, you should have some compelling reasons. I'm not talking about other cities perhaps being better suited for it because that's not what you said. Why is Columbus not qualified?

Transportation, venues, attractions and amenities for starters. Oh yeah, and a mayor threatening a 2016 Democratic loss if the DNC is not in Columbus, Ohio, instead of stressing the amenities, character, and the uniquenss of, the city. Not stressing that COL can provide a top-shelf DNC experience. Coleman's thinking is that COL should win by default because CLE won the RNC.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

I defend Columbus when I think people are being factually untrue, or against ridiculous claims, but I'm still a realist at heart. Columbus is up against much larger cities with much larger pools of resources. So while I think Columbus, unlike you, is more than capable of pulling it off, I'm not going to hold my breath against the competition.

Is it me or are you contradicting yourself here? Let's see, COL can pull off the DNC but it is up against larger cities and resources, so it can't win; so was CLE with the RNC. If COL can pull off the DNC, as you state, then it could win. For being such a Columbus, Ohio booster, you sure throw the towel in early.

In other words, if COL can pull off the DNC, then it can pull off a win.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Kamms

Transportation, venues, attractions and amenities for starters. Oh yeah, and a mayor threatening a 2016 Democratic loss if the DNC is not in Columbus, Ohio, instead of stressing the amenities, character, and the uniquenss of, the city. Let alone that that COL can provide a top-shelf DNC experience.

How, then, does Columbus host significantly larger events with greater than 100,000 people at the Convention Center and other venues?

Cleveland won despite having arguably far fewer amenities and attractions than several of the cities it competed with. In any case, the experience is the convention, not museums and galleries anyway.

The bottom line is that Columbus is more than qualified to hold it. But so are most of the cities its competing with.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Kamms

Is it me or are you contradicting yourself here? Let's see, COL can pull off the DNC but it is up against larger cities and resources, so it can't win; so was CLE with the RNC. If COL can pull off the DNC, as you state, then it could win. For being such a Columbus, Ohio booster, you sure throw the towel in early.

In other words, if COL can pull off the DNC, then it can pull off a win.

It's just you. 1. I'm not saying Columbus can't win, because it can. Cleveland's win against much larger cities with more amenities proves it can happen. 2. Columbus can indeed hold the DNC just fine based on experience with far larger events that would use many, if not all, of the same venues and transit. 3. All that said, there is not really anything to gain by expecting a win when the choices aren't even narrowed down.

I'm not even sure why you're arguing when you already said you hope Columbus doesn't win and that you don't think it's qualified anyway.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

How, then, does Columbus host significantly larger events with greater than 100,000 people at the Convention Center and other venues?

Cleveland won despite having arguably far fewer amenities and attractions than several of the cities it competed with. In any case, the experience is the convention, not museums and galleries anyway.

The bottom line is that Columbus is more than qualified to hold it. But so are most of the cities its competing with.

Transportation was a key issue with RNC, which Cleveland had the better of, at least to the RNC. I wouldn't say CLE had far fewer amenities and attractions than any of the other cities it competed with.

[Kamms]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

It's just you. 1. I'm not saying Columbus can't win, because it can. Cleveland's win against much larger cities with more amenities proves it can happen. 2. Columbus can indeed hold the DNC just fine based on experience with far larger events that would use many, if not all, of the same venues and transit. 3. All that said, there is not really anything to gain by expecting a win when the choices aren't even narrowed down.

I'm not even sure why you're arguing when you already said you hope Columbus doesn't win and that you don't think it's qualified anyway.

Not really arguing, I was just curious as to why you think COL will not get the DNC; it could win but you don'T think it will. Why?

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Kamms

Transportation was a key issue with RNC, which Cleveland had the better of, at least to the RNC. I wouldn't say CLE had far fewer amenities and attractions than any of the other cities it competed with.

That was the reason they gave, not necessarily the real reason.

I didn't think you would.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Kamms

Not really arguing, I was just curious as to why you think COL will not get the DNC; it could win but you don'T think it will. Why?

I have already answered this more than once.