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View Poll Results: Do you support a general ban on travel to the U.S. that bars re-entry of current residents of Ohio?
Trump's all-inclusive ban on travel from the 7 specified countries is OK. 15 21.13%
The Trump policy is great, but should be extended to Saudi Arabia and Egypt. 15 21.13%
Admission to the U.S. should be determined on an individual basis, with no blanket ban on any country. 38 53.52%
I don't care. 3 4.23%
Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-04-2017, 03:10 PM
 
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Or not. Because it's unconstitutional and un-American. It's interesting watching the same people who are always arguing that guns are awesome and constitutionally sacred even after thousands upon thousands of gun murders every single year in the US freak out over a few extremists causing the deaths of a couple hundred abroad. All are tragic, but the proportional response is so out of whack it's hard to take it seriously.
He was perfectly within the law . The judges are wrong! And it's only unAmerican to left bleeding heart politically correct vagina hat types.
Are you just going to keep denying islam is an ideology that wouldnt kill you if they had the chance?
Btw I want Everyone vetted before they are allowed in. Maybe anyone who follows the Koran and its f'd up ideolgy should be permently banned. I don't want americas most common baby name Mohamad like it is in several European countries. If we continue the bleeding heart politically correct left path, we will end up just like Europe, the fabric of their country change for the worse forever.
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Old 06-04-2017, 03:20 PM
 
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That's what is never mentioned; it's a temporary ban from certain countries. Dump that 60 year old ''cutting edge comic'' (lol) in one these countries.
A "temporary" ban that has no guarantee it couldn't be extended indefinitely. And those nations still don't make any sense as the US hasn't had any terrorism from any of them. Oh, and it's unconstitutional. Or does that not matter?
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Old 06-04-2017, 03:22 PM
 
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It's going to be hilarious watching the lefties stomp their feet and cry like babies when the Supreme Court jams this right down their throats. I suggest you lefties stock up on some salve:
Classy as always. Trump lackeys supporting a racist, unconstitutional ban, temporary or not, but their priorities continue to be for Trump rather than America. Yet it's those on the left with the problem?
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Old 06-04-2017, 03:23 PM
 
Location: cleveland
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Or not. Because it's unconstitutional and un-American. It's interesting watching the same people who are always arguing that guns are awesome and constitutionally sacred even after thousands upon thousands of gun murders every single year in the US freak out over a few extremists causing the deaths of a couple hundred abroad. All are tragic, but the proportional response is so out of whack it's hard to take it seriously.
Nice deflection.
ISLAMIC terrorists now kill more than 30,000 world wide ,up from a few thousand 10 yrs ago.
The murder rate in America is way down since the 70 's and would be even lower if and when blacks stop perpetuating genicide on each other. And we know how to avoid those crimes.
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Old 06-04-2017, 03:25 PM
 
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He was perfectly within the law . The judges are wrong! And it's only unAmerican to left bleeding heart politically correct vagina hat types.
Are you just going to keep denying islam is an ideology that wouldnt kill you if they had the chance?
Btw I want Everyone vetted before they are allowed in. Maybe anyone who follows the Koran and its f'd up ideolgy should be permently banned. I don't want americas most common baby name Mohamad like it is in several European countries. If we continue the bleeding heart politically correct left path, we will end up just like Europe, the fabric of their country change for the worse forever.
This just is a perfect example of the fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberals have empathy. Conservatives have fear. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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Old 06-04-2017, 03:27 PM
 
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Nice deflection.
ISLAMIC terrorists now kill more than 30,000 world wide ,up from a few thousand 10 yrs ago.
The murder rate in America is way down since the 70 's and would be even lower if and when blacks stop perpetuating genicide on each other. And we know how to avoid those crimes.
Glad to know your racism is not the least diminished, though. "Genicide"


Got any link for your 30,000 number? And you know, not from Breitbart or some other white nationalist website?
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Old 06-04-2017, 03:28 PM
 
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Maybe because a couple liberal judges from the 9th circus court blocked a perfectly Leah all ban?


Nothing prevented from the Trump administration from refining and implementing improved screening methods during the past 4 months, most especially as the courts had blocked the emergency ban.

Are you suggesting that the Trump administration is so inept that it refused to begin such an undertaking despite the administration's claim of an urgent need to do so???

My belief is that the screening methods already were so intense that little improvement was possible.

Actually, this may be an issue in the Supreme Court hearings, as it suggests that the Trump administration had either no need or no intention to refine screening methods if such capabilities have not yet been implemented.

Also, if national security demands some change in the immigration laws, why hasn't the Trump administration presented a legislative fix to Congress, a bill which likely would pass easily?

How much snake oil will Trumpies buy before they recognize Trump as a political con man and shill of racists? Trumpies who are racists actually don't care if Trump's security concerns have validity.
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Old 06-04-2017, 03:33 PM
 
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A "temporary" ban that has no guarantee it couldn't be extended indefinitely. And those nations still don't make any sense as the US hasn't had any terrorism from any of them. Oh, and it's unconstitutional. Or does that not matter?
You have no "right" to immigrate to this country. The President can set whatever standards he likes when it comes to immigration to insure our safety. If the President doesn't like people with blue eyes, it is perfectly legal, let alone a sick, evil religion that can't get its own house in order!
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Old 06-04-2017, 03:57 PM
 
Location: cleveland
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This just is a perfect example of the fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberals have empathy. Conservatives have fear. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
Not fear. Not in the least.
Just being proactive and learning from liberal europes mistakes.
Your the person afraid. Your afraid to hurt someone's feelings and calling a spade a spade when you see one. More weakness and political feel-good correctness. How did the participation trophys help the kids? Oh that's right, kids learned no practice+no hard work+no dedication=trophy
Sorry but I don't suscribe to rubbish.
You say "liberal have empathy" but you want all the working people to pay for all your concerns,injustices and guilt
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Old 06-04-2017, 04:01 PM
 
Location: cleveland
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Nothing prevented from the Trump administration from refining and implementing improved screening methods during the past 4 months, most especially as the courts had blocked the emergency ban.

Are you suggesting that the Trump administration is so inept that it refused to begin such an undertaking despite the administration's claim of an urgent need to do so???

My belief is that the screening methods already were so intense that little improvement was possible.

Actually, this may be an issue in the Supreme Court hearings, as it suggests that the Trump administration had either no need or no intention to refine screening methods if such capabilities have not yet been implemented.

Also, if national security demands some change in the immigration laws, why hasn't the Trump administration presented a legislative fix to Congress, a bill which likely would pass easily?

How much snake oil will Trumpies buy before they recognize Trump as a political con man and shill of racists? Trumpies who are racists actually don't care if Trump's security concerns have validity.
I bet you a great lakes beer that the Supreme Court reverses it. will you except that decision if it happens? Or you going to claim Russian involvement?😎
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