Is Southern Ohio considered part of the south? (Louisville, Clarksburg: estate, farm)

[costello_musicman]

From a Cleveland comic...


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[CookieSkoon]

Originally Posted by costello_musicman

From a Cleveland comic...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr3ft...layer_embedded

Holy crap that guy hates Appalachians. XD

I... I like my slim Jims. :<

And my scratch off... lotto... cards...

And I voted... for... McCain...

CRUD! I'm a apparently a moron! D:

But there are no Appalachians west of him. Only Mid-western lowlanders. HA! Got him there! >

[Craziaskowboi]

Nothing north of I-64 is part of the South.

[JimmyJohnWilson]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

Nothing north of I-64 is part of the South.

ive asked you this on other threads and have never gotten an answer, why i-64? what exactly differs culturally between paris kentucky and richmond kentucky? i-64 is a highway, not a cultural diving line. it bears no significance. the bluegrass region is clearly a solid cultural entity, and 1-64 bisects it. its just a truly arbitrary line, a highway put in place years after these cultures had developed simply for the purpose of connecting cities with roughly the same latitude. i see no logic in this.

[CookieSkoon]

Originally Posted by JimmyJohnWilson

ive asked you this on other threads and have never gotten an answer, why i-64? what exactly differs culturally between paris kentucky and richmond kentucky? i-64 is a highway, not a cultural diving line. it bears no significance. the bluegrass region is clearly a solid cultural entity, and 1-64 bisects it. its just a truly arbitrary line, a highway put in place years after these cultures had developed simply for the purpose of connecting cities with roughly the same latitude. i see no logic in this.

I don't know why, but people use Highways all the time it seems. Like here in LA, the whole I-10 thing.

I don't get it either.

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by JimmyJohnWilson

ive asked you this on other threads and have never gotten an answer, why i-64? what exactly differs culturally between paris kentucky and richmond kentucky? i-64 is a highway, not a cultural diving line. it bears no significance. the bluegrass region is clearly a solid cultural entity, and 1-64 bisects it. its just a truly arbitrary line, a highway put in place years after these cultures had developed simply for the purpose of connecting cities with roughly the same latitude. i see no logic in this.

It's not a hard dividing line, but I never felt like I was in the South in northern Virginia, northern West Virginia, or any part of Ohio. I did, however, get a bit of a Southern vibe in Louisville and Lexington, KY, and it got heavier the farther south I traveled on I-65 and I-75.

[Clyde81]

Is Southern Ohio considered part of the south? Nope.

Appalachian Ohio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Dayton Sux]

Re highways as dividing lines:

The old National Road, AKA US 40, used to be considered by cultural geographers as the northermost extension of Southern cultural influence.



...this was a rough approximation, though, since the Miami Valley region, better known as the Dayton/Cincinnati area or "Southwest Ohio" was not that southern, being settled mostly by folks from Pennsylvania and New Jersey. There are parts of Southern Indiana, south of US 40, that are more rural German-American, too, in ancestry, vs "southern".

The area to the east of "Daytonnati", between the Little Miami River and the Scioto, had a strong in-migration from Kentucky and Virginia, so there was a historic cultural connection to the "upper South". Here is a good article on this part of Ohio. Not the area the thread parent is talking about, though:

Virginia Military District MIGRATION 1790


In recent times the southernmost counties of this area were big tobacco growing areas, growning white burley, the same variety grown in central Kentucky. Ripley OH, on the Ohio River not far from Maysville KY, was the center of this tobacco agriculture, which is commemorated in a museum and a festival:

Ohio Tobacco Museum - Ohio History Central - A product of the Ohio Historical Society

[JimmyJohnWilson]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

It's not a hard dividing line, but I never felt like I was in the South in northern Virginia, northern West Virginia, or any part of Ohio. I did, however, get a bit of a Southern vibe in Louisville and Lexington, KY, and it got heavier the farther south I traveled on I-65 and I-75.

have you actually been to the area in question here though? (that being the rural areas of the southeast corner of ohio)

i agree that northern VA, northern WV are more northern than southern, but 65 i dont think is a good divider, even roughly. not only does it bisect the bluegrass region, but it bisects areas of southern WV and inland VA which it shouldnt. theres a lot of space between clarksville WV and i 64. not to mention the fact that using it as a boundary would include WAY too much of illinois. it seems mildly close as a divider, but id hardly go off of it and say "nothing north of 64 is southern culturally" because that isnt true at all. its a highway and obviously its placement has nothing to do with cultural boundaries, as its purpose is simply to connect cities via automobile.

[Chriscross309]

Originally Posted by JimmyJohnWilson

have you actually been to the area in question here though? (that being the rural areas of the southeast corner of ohio)

i agree that northern VA, northern WV are more northern than southern, but 65 i dont think is a good divider, even roughly. not only does it bisect the bluegrass region, but it bisects areas of southern WV and inland VA which it shouldnt. theres a lot of space between clarksville WV and i 64. not to mention the fact that using it as a boundary would include WAY too much of illinois. it seems mildly close as a divider, but id hardly go off of it and say "nothing north of 64 is southern culturally" because that isnt true at all. its a highway and obviously its placement has nothing to do with cultural boundaries, as its purpose is simply to connect cities via automobile.

I'd put everything south of Charleston, WV in the "South"

Charleston is very Midwest!

and I believe you mean Clarksburg, WV!