03-16-2008, 04:48 PM
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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It may mimic the WTC, but I still don't see how it's interesting.
LOL, it's not all that interesting. I do like the look of the building, but it's nothing to write home about. I like the steel structure look. I actually would like to see OkC build the tallest building in the state. Then maybe the two cities would have skyscraper wars..
Actually, I don't think Tulsa will be building another big skyscraper for many years. Tulsa's downtown is already bigger looking than the actual size of the city.
03-16-2008, 09:04 PM
Location: Bourbonnais, IL
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LOL, it's not all that interesting. I do like the look of the building, but it's nothing to write home about. I like the steel structure look. I actually would like to see OkC build the tallest building in the state. Then maybe the two cities would have skyscraper wars..
Actually, I don't think Tulsa will be building another big skyscraper for many years. Tulsa's downtown is already bigger looking than the actual size of the city.
It's always puzzled me how Tulsa has the states tallest (and 2 and 3 I believe). Growing up I always assumed OKC had the tallest simply because it's the larger metro. Skyscrapers are the one thing I envy about Tulsa.
03-17-2008, 01:53 PM
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It's always puzzled me how Tulsa has the states tallest (and 2 and 3 I believe). Growing up I always assumed OKC had the tallest simply because it's the larger metro. Skyscrapers are the one thing I envy about Tulsa.
That always puzzled me as well. Not only is OkC the more populous metro, it's a more populous city. When I moved to Tulsa in the early 80s I would occasionally pass by downtown and I mentioned something about the buildings in downtown Tulsa appeared to look taller than those in OkC. My friend said, "That's because they are!"
I guess it has to do with the amount of land available in each city. With OkC having much more land available, it probably made sense to build out and not up. Also, with Tulsa's downtown being right next to the river, maybe that was prime real estate for office space and everyone wanted an office with a view.
Update: One interesting fact to add. The Williams Tower is not only the tallest building in Oklahoma, but taller than any building West of the Mississippi with the exception of the tallest buildings in the following states:
Minnesota, Illinois, Colorado (Republic Plaza is only a little taller than the Williams Tower), California, and Washington.
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04-02-2008, 04:28 PM
Location: T-town, OK
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Devon needs to hurry up with their renderings and plans. Everyone is getting anxious. With 1 million sq. feet it could easily surpass 37 stories, and I hope it'll be over 700 feet, that would be nice.
Here's Tulsa and OKC's tallest buildings (downtown) OKC needs to step up and take the record.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6933/tulsaandokcdowntownbldsfm4.jpg (broken link)
Here's some buildings with around 1 million sq. feet or so.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5d/Hancock_tower_2006.jpg/250px-Hancock_tower_2006.jpg (broken link)
John Hancock Tower, existing in Chicago.
1,127 feet tall, 100 floors.
853,400 square feet.
Chrysler Building, existing in NYC.
925 feet, 77 floors.
1,195,000 square feet.
Bank of America Tower, existing in Atlanta.
932 feet, 55 floors.
1.2 million square feet.
Bank of America Corporate Center, existing in Charlotte.
871 feet, 63 floors.
1.2 million square feet.
Chase Tower, existing in Indianapolis.
700 feet, 48 floors.
900,000 square feet.
There's many, many more. But sq. footage wise that is what could happen in OKC. Just depends on the design and the floor height.
04-02-2008, 09:43 PM
Location: Bourbonnais, IL
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That BOA tower is impressive for a place Charlotte's size. I've always liked that tower.
05-17-2008, 11:36 PM
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Good article.
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"A Connecticut architecture firm that designed Atlanta's 1180 Peachtree Tower and Four Seasons Place, a 3.1 million-square-foot complex in Malaysia, is set to “make a new heart of Oklahoma City” with a Devon Energy skyscraper.
Larry Nichols, chief executive officer of Devon, said Friday Picard Chilton was hired from among seven internationally-accomplished architecture firms the company has interviewed the past several months.
How the team was chosen “We started with the whole list of people who build high rises,” Nichols said. “We then came up with a list of six firms, and then had three finalists. They were all world class.”
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I love the fact that a guy from Oklahoma will be a part of the design/planning. It looks like OKC will have quite an iconic tower. I just hope it looks nice and fits in well with the rest of the skyline. I like the idea of having the 'tallest', but whatever happens it will still be world class. Anything that costs 400 mil and has over 1mil sq ft will be incredible. Looking over the comparison of Tulsa vs OKC DT buildings does really nothing for me. Other than the First National, City Place and the Mid-Continent, both cities are still in the eighties for 'skyscrapers'. I have always admired the size of the Bok building but looking at it in the diagram just makes me think of a huge rectangle. OKC looks like it will get a building around that size but it will obviously have a much better design.
Here is an example of what the firm has done and gives a possible peak at their direction...
River Point, Chicago, IL : Hines Interests
http://www.*****rdchilton.com/ (broken link)
or
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05-18-2008, 05:55 PM
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I hope they build something really stunning that will stand out. The two examples you've given are beautiful. I'm a country person at heart, but eye catching architecture like that is beautiful to me.
05-18-2008, 06:17 PM
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It has to fit in somewhat with the other buildings though, imo. I don't want something so iconic that it doesn't fit in and it makes people say "oh wow, that doesn't belong here, that's too good for a city like this.". It'll be great though, this is wonderful for OKC and Oklahoma even to finally be getting a new skyscraper.
05-18-2008, 06:47 PM
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A little diversity in the architecture isn't a bad thing. I've found that the old architecture mixed with ultra-modern looks pretty good..
05-18-2008, 08:48 PM
Location: Duncan, OK
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A little diversity in the architecture isn't a bad thing. I've found that the old architecture mixed with ultra-modern looks pretty good..
Like this one I caught on friday? Reflecting on the past...
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/jimeezlady/IMG_7212aoldandnew.jpg (broken link)
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People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Actually, I don't think Tulsa will be building another big skyscraper for many years. Tulsa's downtown is already bigger looking than the actual size of the city.
