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If the NBA put an expansive team in Tulsa how would the people in OKC feel about having two sports teams in Oklahoma?
05-25-2021, 06:58 AM
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If the NBA put an expansive team in Tulsa how would the people in OKC feel about having two sports teams in Oklahoma?
The NBA would never put a team in Tulsa with the current demographics of Tulsa and OKC. But if they did it would be great. Seems to me that the Thunder and Mavs have never really gotten as heated as we might have expected. An OKC vs Tulsa rivalry would certainly develop in a big way.
Back when both OKC and Tulsa had minor league hockey the ice rinks in both cities would have huge crowds for those games and the players got into the rivalry. It was a lot of fun. OKC's Alphie O'Hanrahan was always playing dirty tricks on the Tulsa players. He was a local hockey hero in OKC for that alone.
05-25-2021, 07:20 AM
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The NBA would never put a team in Tulsa with the current demographics of Tulsa and OKC. But if they did it would be great. Seems to me that the Thunder and Mavs have never really gotten as heated as we might have expected. An OKC vs Tulsa rivalry would certainly develop in a big way.
Mavs vs Thunder is kinda like a playoff rivalry the mavs beat y’all in 2011, then they met the following year and OKC swept them, then in 2016 OKC had a Gentleman’s sweep, But there’s been moments when Russ and JJ got into it in the regular season, then in the 2016 playoffs I think Charlie V said something to Russ then after the game Russ and KD was roasting him.
05-27-2021, 03:36 AM
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If the NBA put an expansive team in Tulsa how would the people in OKC feel about having two sports teams in Oklahoma?
Tulsa is Blacklisted because of The Tulsa Shocks WNBA Team Folding In Town.
1.Seattle
2.KCMO & St Louis
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5.Nashville
6.Las Vegas
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10.Two cities in Ohio Without NBA TEAMSLong Shot San Diego Tulsa OK
05-27-2021, 04:27 AM
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Mavs vs Thunder is kinda like a playoff rivalry the mavs beat y’all in 2011, then they met the following year and OKC swept them, then in 2016 OKC had a Gentleman’s sweep, But there’s been moments when Russ and JJ got into it in the regular season, then in the 2016 playoffs I think Charlie V said something to Russ then after the game Russ and KD was roasting him.
Honestly though, I would have thought that the OKC-Mavs thing would have been a lot bigger thing that it is. I don't get the impression from the OKC fan side of things that the Mavs have been anything special. Rather it seems like Thunder fans get more fired up for teams that have been thorns in the Thunders side for a specific season. And of course they hated the Warriors when Durant was there. I remember a couple of seasons ago, the Nuggets were the big enemy. I can remember when it was the Spurs the Rockets. Even Memphis some years back.
Not saying that the OKC Dallas rivalry doesn't exist but that it really has never really captured the city vs city fever pitch that I thought it would. And I'm saying that from the OKC side. Dallas has always had the big rivalries with the other Texas teams. So even they only have so much time and energy for the Thunder.
05-30-2021, 08:23 AM
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Honestly though, I would have thought that the OKC-Mavs thing would have been a lot bigger thing that it is. I don't get the impression from the OKC fan side of things that the Mavs have been anything special. Rather it seems like Thunder fans get more fired up for teams that have been thorns in the Thunders side for a specific season. And of course they hated the Warriors when Durant was there. I remember a couple of seasons ago, the Nuggets were the big enemy. I can remember when it was the Spurs the Rockets. Even Memphis some years back.
If they met more often in the post season or were both very good at the same time it might be different. Seems like one is good or its the other.
05-30-2021, 04:52 PM
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If they met more often in the post season or were both very good at the same time it might be different. Seems like one is good or its the other.
Very good observation. That is true. Perhaps it will happen one of these years but the Thunder better not blow it with their draft picks or trades or they aren't going to be on any team's rival list.
06-01-2021, 01:03 PM
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Tulsa is Blacklisted because of The Tulsa Shocks WNBA Team Folding In Town.
The odds are 100 to 1 of Tulsa getting Major League Sports, it turned down expanding TU Staduim ,MLS wanted a team in Tuls a team back then.
Blackballed MLS
NBA/WNBA Blackballed
USFL Team Folded No NFL
NHL Won't go into Area rejected by NBA
MLB 81 Home games with 25,000-50,000 Fans
TULSA DROPPED FROM AAA TO AA BASEBALL
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06-29-2021, 03:13 PM
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Maybe if OKC had 3 million people in it's metropolitan area and Tulsa 2 million, but given the current population/demographics of the state and the two cities, Oklahoma is lucky to have the Thunder.
06-29-2021, 06:08 PM
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Maybe if OKC had 3 million people in it's metropolitan area and Tulsa 2 million, but given the current population/demographics of the state and the two cities, Oklahoma is lucky to have the Thunder.
Absolutely, and even then population is no guarantee. San Diego (#8 rank in population) lost their Clippers to LA. Jacksonville (#13) and Columbus (#14) also lack NBA teams.
An NBA team for Tulsa (#48) would be an insult to Austin (#11), an hour south to the Alamo and the Spurs.
It would also be akin to Tucson (#33) getting a franchise with PHX 90 minutes to the north. There are a lot larger metros that might support a franchise. Like Seattle (#18), still smarting from their loss/OKC's gain, and KC/Omaha, who used to host the Sacramento Kings. The ranks I have posted are for the city itself, if the MSA (metro) is used, Tulsa drops down to #54.
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Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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