06-11-2008, 10:18 AM
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Deer Creek also has a good school district and if you move to far west Edmond you might be in the Deer Creek school district.
Heather,
I have been watching this post and feel that if you are deciding between Deer Creek and Edmond, it is important to compare the two school districts carefully because they are very different in many ways!
Edmond has a large amount of commercial growth so they are well funded to handle the increase in size in the district. They have a good long range plan. They build ahead of their growth and they have excellent facilities. They seem to be well funded on a daily basis so there doesn't seem to be any problems with access to textbooks, either on-line or hard-copy. They have the same curriculum in all elementary schools with a yearly schedule so that as new elementary schools are added all the children are learning the same things and just go to a different school and open up the same books to the same page. The high schools produce a steady stream of National Merit finalists, the high schools have the lowest college remediation rates of all area public high schools (number of students who have to take remedial classes in college) and they have 3 high schools on Newsweek's list of the top 100 high schools in the nation. No matter how you feel about Newsweek's selection criteria, this is something to think about.
Deer Creek is almost opposite on all counts. They have close to zero commercial business to fund their hugh growth. They are definitely building behind their growth curve in the building department. The last elementary school opened with temporary buildings two years ago and the next elementary school will not open for another year. At this point they have completely different curriculum "methodologies" at each elementary school which means there is no standardization in what the children learn as they all go to the same middle school and are redistricted into different elementary schools (with resulting parental backlash with each attempt to redistrict for a new elementary). There are textbook issues with children having no access to on-line or hard-copy textbooks for most of the year. The high schools have one of the higher college remediation rates compared to other local suburban school districts. They have had no National Merit finalists recently as compared to districts of the same size like Piedmont who seem to produce a small steady stream of finalists. I know Deer Creek is trying hard to improve, but sometimes you have to send your children to the school district that you judge to be good NOW and not to the school which MIGHT be good sometime in the future!
I think everyone should decide for themselves what is important in a school district and call and ask
very specific questions. Two schools with similar test score results can result in completely different educational experiences for your children! This is all just my opinion but hopefully I have given you ideas on what types of questions you can ask!
You can check state test results and college remediation rates at
Oklahoma School Report Cards . At the Deer Creek site you can look at the student population at
http://www.deercreekschools.org/studentpopulation/ and note that each of the elementary schools was built for 500 students to get a feel for how many children are in temporary buildings. The middle school is also getting overcrowded and construction has not started on a new middle school yet!
I have moved here from another state and am pretty happy. I know you will be to. No matter what problems each school district has, with concerned parents the children will be fine! I think the children at all the districts are friendly and open to making new friends. With the large growth in the area there will also be many other children who have moved into the district and are also looking for friends. Good luck in your search!
06-11-2008, 06:59 PM
Location: Deer Creek/Edmond, OKla
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I will agree with most of the above statement. I know the funding for the schools isnt as great as the Edmond schools and Deer Creek Schools rely quite heavily on the parental donations through fund raising activities. However, I wouldnt say that children go without books or internet. Perhaps back 8-10 yrs ago when my wife went to school there, but I have not seen this problem in my daughter's school. As far as the temporary buildings, Edmond schools have those as well due to over crowding. The middle school (Summit) I went to had 4 portable buildings (1993) and to my knowledge are still in use. Parhaps Deer Creek wasnt expecting such a rapid population influx to the west part of Edmond. The Deer Creek School district goes quite a ways south, almost to Memorial Road I believe. If they were/are struggling perhaps that wasnt such a good idea, but then again I am not sure whole ultimately decides where the school districts are. The Deer Creek School district can not be the only ones involved since the are included other towns and schools district. So perhaps the full blame can not be put on Deer Creek schools for the additional students. 8-10 yrs ago, Deer Creek was 1 highschool, 1 middle school and 1 elementary school all on one campus. 10yrs ago Edmond already had 3 highschools, a half dozen or more middle schools and dozens of elementary schools. But then again 10 yrs ago Edmond didnt go much further than Western or Penn ave.
I havent seen anything that would lead me to believe that my child is getting a sub par education.
06-28-2008, 02:33 AM
Location: central okc
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CHK was recently listed on the Best Companies to Work for list, so I'd say it's a pretty good deal. As for neighborhoods/schools, I'd like to throw some non-Edmond biased info your way. There are way more unique shops and restaurants along western by Chesapeake and the general area than ANYWHERE in Edmond. Edmond is ok if you like strip malls with every chain/big-box retailer you can imagine. Also, Chesapeake's employees are well compensated enough that you should seriously consider the private schools. While a lot of folks like the Edmond public schools, I guarantee your children will have a better experience at Casady or Heritage. In the neighborhood side of things Crown Heights, Edgemere, and Nichols Hills are far nicer and more unique than anything Edmond, America has to offer.
06-30-2008, 10:53 AM
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See the neighborhoods for yourself!
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While a lot of folks like the Edmond public schools, I guarantee your children will have a better experience at Casady or Heritage. In the neighborhood side of things Crown Heights, Edgemere, and Nichols Hills are far nicer and more unique than anything Edmond, America has to offer.
I agree with thanksarthur 100%. If you like historic homes on tree lined streets, Crown Heights, Edgemere and Nichols hills are the places to be. Google has loaded most of Oklahoma City into Street View so you can actually roam the streets of the neighborhoods yourself. If you go to google and type in "Nichols Hills oklahoma city OK" several businesses in Nichols hills will pop up. Click on the "Street View" box on the top of the map. The streets that are lined with blue have been scanned in. Use your mouse to pick up the little yellow man and put him on any blue street. Click on the picture that appears on the pop up box. You are now roaming the streets of Oklahoma City! Use your mouse to turn and face any direction and click the arrows to move. Have fun!
07-12-2008, 11:37 PM
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The Grove
Not sure if you are still interested in info on The Grove or not, but we are in the process of building there. The neighborhood should be amazing, but so far there are only about 15-20 houses. The first phase has smaller homes (under 2000 sf), but there is another phase starting that will be larger homes. All of the amenities (pool, playground,...) have not been started yet. The new Deer Creek school is underway and is set to open for the 09-10 school year. As for Chesapeake, I have heard nothing but wonderful things about working there.
03-10-2010, 04:23 PM
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To all parents that are concerned about their child's education,
Deer Creek Schools are not a good choice. Especially if your kids receive special education services. Their special education department is corrupt and unethical. They often qualify kids inappropriately and make up test results to agree with what they want. Many of the schools try to overidentify kids and try to pull them out of the classroom too much! I would not recommend Deer Creek to any parent. It is a horrible place to be unless you have been there your whole life. The Special Education Director is engaged in an inappropriate relationship with a supervisee and this has clouded his judgement. He should be replaced immediately!
Concerned Deer Creek citizen
03-23-2010, 01:40 PM
Location: Longmont, CO
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Granted, this thread is quite old, but I thought I'd add some insight we gained when we moved here a couple of years ago.
First off, the school district boundaries are hard to figure out sometimes, so you'll need to check on an address by address basis.
Interestingly, you can have OKC addresses with Edmond OR Deer Creek schools and Edmond addresses with Deer Creek schools. It can make your head spin.
Similarly, if you have a special needs child, I would suggest sticking with Edmond schools. I have no idea whether the other poster's accusations have any merit, but, purely based on numbers and resources, Edmond schools are better equipped to handle all but the simplest IEPs. (IMHO)
One other thing we've found, is that sometimes schools that we've come to know very well are far better than their greatschools.com scores would indicate. It's my guess that this is a byproduct of them being newer schools with less of a documented track record of success, rather than from any actual shortcomings.
Finally, with a daughter in high school, we've come to realize that, although Edmond North is an excellent high school for the "average" student, it's offerings for advanced students leave a lot to be desired. The quality of the teachers in her AP courses has fallen far short of where it ought to be. Granted, at that level, the students are able to, on their own, compensate some for the teacher's deficiencies, but, as I see it, they shouldn't need to.
03-23-2010, 07:31 PM
Location: Kansas City North
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Interestingly, you can have OKC addresses with Edmond OR Deer Creek schools and Edmond addresses with Deer Creek schools. It can make your head spin.
Or, like me, you can live within the city limits of Oklahoma City, but have an Edmond address and be in the Edmond school district. It's all in the garbage cans - if it's blue you're in OKC, green - Edmond.
04-12-2010, 11:44 AM
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Hi Heather--I am from Illinois--outside SW burbs. Just moved here last year. We are also looking into moving from Yukon to Edmond. From what we have seen so far, we are excited to move to Edmond.
We are also looking into Child Care and Schools.
04-12-2010, 04:59 PM
Location: Deer Creek/Edmond, OKla
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Or, like me, you can live within the city limits of Oklahoma City, but have an Edmond address and be in the Edmond school district. It's all in the garbage cans - if it's blue you're in OKC, green - Edmond.
Or you can be like me.. Logan County, Edmond Address, Deer Creek Schools, OGE Electric.
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Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)