[Howest2008]

If you read the entire link it does.....

People came from all across the U.S. to participate in the Land Run.....

The most southern culture component of OK were the Southern Indian Slave Owners , who by the
way were polar opposite of theirs Caucasian/White counterpoints and allowed intermarriage of slave
owners and slaves , and in some cases liberation and freedom for theirs best slaves....

[eddie gein]

Originally Posted by johnspecial

This doesn't really make any sense other than from a topography standpoint. Western Oklahoma was settled by cotton and peanut farmers primarily from the states of Alabama and Mississippi. Cowboy boots and cowboy hats are a staple across the south.

European settlement in the United States has always followed a east to west pattern and Oklahoma territory was the number 1 destination for southerners escaping reconstruction. The term "country and western" makes little sense considering states west of Oklahoma are almost void of that phenomenon.

Your argument doesn't hold any water.

Do you even read the posts that you quote.

But anyway I found this from the OK historical society

The 1900 census revealed that about 46 percent of settlers north and west of the Miami-Altus line hailed from midwestern states or had European parentage.

[Studying Okie]

[quote=Howest2008;36334131]

The most southern culture component of OK were the Southern Indian Slave Owners , who by the
way were polar opposite of theirs Caucasian/White counterpoints and allowed intermarriage of slave
owners and slaves , and in some cases liberation and freedom for theirs best slaves....

Not sure what you meant here. Oklahoma's southern influence did come in part from the relocated civilized tribes, but more so from the large number of poor southern whites who came to farm in Oklahoma (both land-run homesteaders and pre land-run sharecroppers).

And to Eddie Gein, check out this 1910 population density map. (Look away Rubi3!!!)



Historical population density maps of Oklahoma

Different interpretations of Oklahoma's cultural regions

What Okies call soft drinks

All from Atlas of Oklahoma and are interactive.

[Studying Okie]

Originally Posted by imbored198824

Ever been to the bootheel of Missouri? You would swear you're in Mississippi.

The bootheel is literally 80 miles upriver from the Mississippi state line. At it's closest, Oklahoma's about 195 miles away from Mississippi. A lot (but not all) of the southern influence in Oklahoma originated from Texas, and not just the Deep South.

I do think on the whole Oklahoma and Missouri have a lot in common, but Missouri seems to have regions that clearly resemble North and South, while Oklahoma's southern culture gradually fades out from southeast to northwest.

[eddie gein]

Originally Posted by Studying Okie

The bootheel is literally 80 miles upriver from the Mississippi state line. At it's closest, Oklahoma's about 195 miles away from Mississippi. A lot (but not all) of the southern influence in Oklahoma originated from Texas, and not just the Deep South.

I do think on the whole Oklahoma and Missouri have a lot in common, but Missouri seems to have regions that clearly resemble North and South, while Oklahoma's southern culture gradually fades out from southeast to northwest.

Missouri's culture changes southeast to northwest much like Oklahoma. The difference being that a larger chunk of Northern Missouri is solidly in the midwestern corn belt than northwestern Oklahoma's wheat belt.

I'd say everything north of I-70 is midwestern although there may be some southern influence in the Mississippi river towns even north of StL. I think I-70 to I-44 is a transition zone and south southeast of I-44 is mostly southern.

Again. I like studying Okies cultural maps links pretty well. But even the experts can't agree totally on Oklahoma.

[Rubi3]

Studying Okie, if I look away I might miss a good laugh. lololol I have this forum set for 40 posts per page and this thread is TWELVE pages. Who knew?

[Howest2008]

Originally Posted by Studying Okie

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Not sure what you meant here. Oklahma's southern influence did come in part from the relocated civilized tribes, but more so from the large number of poor southern whites who came to farm in Oklahoma (both land-run homesteaders and pre land-run sharecroppers).

And to Eddie Gein, check out this 1910 population density map. (Look away Rubi3!!!)



Historical population density maps of Oklahoma

Different interpretations of Oklahoma's cultural regions

What Okies call soft drinks

All from Atlas of Oklahoma and are interactive.

Oklahoma Destiny is to follow in the footsteps of Texas and Arizona and Kansas and Missouri , as
theirs cities becomes less and less conservative ( so will OKC and Tulsa ).....

Out of these cities which ones are Conservative

Cities of Texas
Cities of Arizona
Cities of Missouri
Cities of Kansas
OKC and Tulsa only Conservative Cites

[Howest2008]

Originally Posted by Howest2008

Oklahoma Destiny is to follow in the footsteps of Texas and Arizona and Kansas and Missouri , as
theirs cities becomes less and less conservative ( so will OKC and Tulsa ).....

Out of these cities which ones are Conservative

Cities of Texas
Cities of Arizona
Cities of Missouri
Cities of Kansas
OKC and Tulsa only Conservative Cites

http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/statesman/...081205libs.pdf

[Studying Okie]

Originally Posted by Howest2008

http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/statesman/...081205libs.pdf

Interesting post.

Also considers Oklahoma City as part of the South.

[johnspecial]

Originally Posted by imbored198824

Actually I disagree I think extreme southern Missouri around Branson has a more southern feel than at least 75% of Oklahoma. Just my opinion. Springfield is similar to Tulsa.

Missouri doesn't have cypress swamps and alligators. Oklahoma does. Missouri doesn't have palms, parts of Oklahoma does.