08-12-2013, 05:43 PM
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Doesn't Tulsa have an up and coming version of Bricktown? If so, I wouldn't be talking.
Tulsa has nothing like Bricktown. These places, where Tulsa has them, are not downtown. Bass Pro is correctly located way out in the 'burbs conveniently placed right near an expressway exit, Toby Keith's is just the lower end restaurant in the Hard Rock casino, IHOPs are all over the suburban areas and the "Ultra" clubs are thankfully less popular here and are not downtown.
08-12-2013, 09:41 PM
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Doesn't Tulsa have an up and coming version of Bricktown? If so, I wouldn't be talking.
I can only think of two chain restaurant that's in the Brady and Blue Dome. We have a Spaghetti Warehouse in the Brady and a Rib Crib in the Blue Dome. There is no IHOP anywhere near downtown, the Bass Pro Shop is in BA and it is almost twice as big as the one in Brick Town. Toby Keith is at the Hard Rock which is almost 13 miles east of downtown. Even though I enjoy going to Bricktown while in OKC, the Brady and the Blue Dome are nothing like it.
08-14-2013, 05:29 PM
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Tulsa and Oklahoma City are very similar. Oklahoma City has grown a lot since I last lived there. From what I have read and understand, there is a boom in Oklahoma City as far as business goes. The differences you will find in one city to another are not major. I dont think either one is a bad choice.
08-15-2013, 12:29 PM
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Bottom line is you can't really make a bad decision. Look at places that are as close to downtown as possible. There is a lot of nightlife in Tulsa, but in OKC you have multiple areas such as bricktown, midtown, Baker St and you're a short drive from the OU bars in Norman. Tulsa seems a little more less of a transit city probably because they don't have a major military base unlike OKC. I've only lived in OKC due to work but visited Tulsa several times. I liked Tulsa a hair better, regardless, worse place I ever lived and I couldn't of left the state soon enough.
08-15-2013, 08:59 PM
Location: Both sides of the Red River
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Tulsa has nothing like Bricktown. These places, where Tulsa has them, are not downtown. Bass Pro is correctly located way out in the 'burbs conveniently placed right near an expressway exit, Toby Keith's is just the lower end restaurant in the Hard Rock casino, IHOPs are all over the suburban areas and the "Ultra" clubs are thankfully less popular here and are not downtown.
I would actually compare Brady District to a slightly larger and slightly more polished version of the 16th Street Plaza District in OKC. Both areas are a bit more "artsy" and locally sources.
But yeah, Bricktown, despite everyone's opinions, is in a class all itself. As someone who kind of soured on it a few years ago, the area seems to be catching a bit of new wind. I am actually really impressed by all the developments in the pipeline.
08-16-2013, 05:50 PM
Location: Chicago, IL
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Tulsa has nothing like Bricktown.
I'll take places like like the Brady and Blue Dome districts over Bricktown any day. Bricktown just sort of looks like a bunch of chain-y suburban-type places were randomly plopped down next to downtown. Tulsa's downtown districts have a little more of a legit downtown hip arty urban kind of feel to me. I did always like the Paseo district in OKC, though I haven't been there in many years. (I hope the fracking money in recent years hasn't gentrified it all to hell.)
It is true that both cities are quite similar in the grand scheme of things, but I do think there's an ever-so-subtle difference, with Tulsa having just a tad more Midwestern flavor and OKC having just a tad more Southern flavor. Think of Tulsa as a smaller Kansas City or St. Louis and OKC as a smaller Dallas or Houston. It's a very slight difference, but it's noticeable after awhile. Comparing either city to Austin or Portland is just silly talk.
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08-18-2013, 11:07 PM
Location: The State Of California
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08-19-2013, 06:30 PM
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Tulsa has nothing like Bricktown. These places, where Tulsa has them, are not downtown. Bass Pro is correctly located way out in the 'burbs conveniently placed right near an expressway exit, Toby Keith's is just the lower end restaurant in the Hard Rock casino, IHOPs are all over the suburban areas and the "Ultra" clubs are thankfully less popular here and are not downtown.
Everything, with the exception of IHOP, is not in Bricktown, those places are in Lower Bricktown. It is not even part of the district. However, I will emphasize that Lower Bricktown in concept is an epic fail that has absolutely no interaction with the canal thanks to the serious lack of vision and risk made by Randy Hogan. Only the theater and the Centennial acknowledge the canal. Everything to the east does not. It has given Bricktown a bad name and I am glad the design committee finally put their foot down on KDs new restaurant, forcing him to redesign the project.
He reminds me of the architect in the Brady Bunch movie... He could never design anything other than the same minimally functional house.
08-22-2013, 03:40 PM
Location: The State Of California
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This must be the most ignorant post ever.
Tulsa has always had The Gathering (stupid name for a park - sounds cult like) which hasn't even been built yet.
BOK center is how old?
CAINS overrated ballroom.
You have to love the fact people love to promote Cains as a reason to move to Tulsa. How many time would you actually go if you lived there? Maybe one time a year if that.
OKC HAS
1. Chesapeake arena, that has more events year round then the BOK.
Also OKC has the Civic Center Music Hall, Diamond Ball room, The blue door, Red Hawks baseball stadium in Brick town
2. Brick-town blows away any entertain district that is exist in Tulsa
3. OKC has better district period. Example, Asian district OKC which is less then one mile long , but has more then 15 Asian restaurants and buffets, two full size asian markets, and numerous other Asian businesses. Little Mexico also know as sw 29th that has more panaderias, tiendas, and taquerias the all of Tulsa. Plus neighborhoods like DEEP DEUCE, MIDTOWN, FILM ROW, AUTOMOBILE ALLY and DOWNTOWN all of which right now have ongoing development.
4. OVER 1000 apartment's and housing under construction or soon to be started in the downtown OKC area.
5. 130 million 70 acre park, which will connect down town with the river.
6. Museums, OKC has many great museums. National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum, Science Museum Oklahoma, Oklahoma City National Memorial and Museum, but again most Museum you only visit once or twice in you life time. Not a good selling point for someone wanting to move to a particular city.
7 White water park being built right now on the river similar to the one in Charlotte, but better location.
8 Construction of street car is soon to start.
9. Also OKC has better Malls and an outlet center = better shopping.
OKC has left Tulsa in its dust. Also I would advise anyone thinking of moving to Tulsa, be-careful of moving to a city that lost population in the last census.
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Nice Try but you just proved everything that I said.....
08-22-2013, 05:29 PM
Location: Chicago, IL
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I'm no huge fan or promoter of either OKC or Tulsa, so I don't care much about this debate, but I have to laugh at the person who said Cain's is overrated and people would only go once a year. Learn some music history, son! I went there several times per year when I lived an hour away from Tulsa, and that was back before they booked as many great acts as they do now.
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People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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