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Old 09-14-2013, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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My father was from Oklahoma and my mother learned to always fix a meat, potato and side salad. I never had broccoli or cauliflower till I was an adult on my own. She would make a big pot of vegetable soup and be the only one who ate it. She always told me "Men Don't Like Casseroles" which of course we know is not true. Just her man and apparently a lot of men from Oklahoma or cattle country.

I watch Ree Drummon, Pioneer Woman and I've noticed she rarely serves vegetables. Always meat and potatoes. Today she didn't even put lettuce and tomato on cheese burgers. And she has to wait for DH to go out of town before she can serve pasta premavera for herself and daughters. Now her sons are growing up with the same aversion to vegetables.


Is it something about the region? I know my Oklahoma grandmother had a garden and we shelled beans on the front porch but that is the only veggie I remember eating there.
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Old 09-14-2013, 10:39 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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A man who refuses to eat anything but meat and potatoes would get mighty hungry in my house.

Once he gets hungry enough, he will eat a casserole or pasta.

The vegetable thing depends a lot upon how good you are at cooking them. I don't get anyone ever turning down my vegetables.

I'm a big fan of steak and baked potato myself, but it is not healthy to only eat those two items. Not to mention, it is fattening and expensive. So, they are in the rotation, but they are not every day.
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Old 09-14-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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My dad was one of those meat and potatoes guys. It was always meat, potatoes, and half a loaf of toasted bread. The only pizza I had growing up was school hot lunch which was more like Stauffer's French Bread pizza. I think it had Velveeta on it for the cheese. The only pasta we ever had was macaroni when mom made was she called goulash which had leftover, you guessed it, meat in it. When I was in high school some buddies and I went "to town" to an actual pizza parlor. Thought I'd died and gone to heaven.
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Old 09-14-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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My great-uncle was like that. Nebraskan farm boy, meat and potatoes with every meal. He had several heart attacks and multiple bypass surgeries (more than one quadruple), not to mention two new knees because his obesity wrecked the ones he was born with. Refused to change. He died last week in hospice.
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Old 09-14-2013, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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One has to remember how this country was formed and who did it. I grew up with meat, potatoes and vegetables because this was the way my Victorian grandmothers and their parents were raised. Every piece of a farm animal was used if possible. The same with fowl and wildlife. You didn't hunt for sport, you hunted to feed a hungry family during the winter. My spouse lived with one functioning artery and a failed quad bypass for 13 years with no trouble because the diet was changed; there were no other options. Death came from an incurable lung disease that is impossible to manage.

Oklahoma is the Native State. Long before civilization came to North America, the Indian hunted bison, (buffalo came later) and used every inch for food, clothing, housing, tools and perhaps a rudimentary weapon. Nothing was left to waste.

You can't take the cow out of cowboy. A man who is raised on corn fed Angus beef isnot going to give it up, but he does not need to eat it every day. The child raised on vegetables, fruits, fish, chicken, turkey, soups, roasts, variety meats, neck and knuckle, casseroles, pork, bacon, ham, sausage and wild game will eat the same as an adult. It is a matter how a kid is raised.

My father had one rule: You're mother cooked it; it is good for you, eat it. He was raised on a farm. When he was thirsty he went to the cow he milked, or to the well, or sometime to the stream as it was pure, cold, and clean in rural America in 1916.

Iceberg aka head lettuce, and whole kernel corn, has no nutritional value to humans (and most animals) whatsoever because we cannot process it. Cows love it because they can, and so can camels. I like corn on the cob in the summer with garden vegetables.

My spouse was a beef and potato eater. When health was poor and a diet change was necessary it was fight. I finally got tired of it, and said, "If you want to die than walk outside in front of the first semi you see and put me out of misery. I'm tired of a daily fight trying to keep your sorry *** alive. I'm not going to help you die." Spouse died 20 years later.

Sometimes one of the adults in the marriage has to also be a parent. It is a part of life when one spouse is a long term patient. The last 15 of our golden years were spent in doctors offices and hospitals while we waite for the Grim Reaper..
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Old 09-14-2013, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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I was raised on a farm in rural Oklahoma, and we had a very high vegetable diet. We always put in a huge garden and salads and vegetables were the common meal during the summer, and still is. All of our neighbors did the same. My moms black eyed peas are starting to come on now, I just had to spay them the other day because they were getting ate up by aphids. We even grow broccoli, cauliflower, brussel sprouts and cabbage in the fall and sometimes all the way through spring if the winter is mild enough. Normally its just the brussel sprouts that will make it through winter.
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Old 09-14-2013, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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Never had spayed blackeyed oeas. I prefer fertile ones (I think)
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Old 09-14-2013, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Never had spayed blackeyed oeas. I prefer fertile ones (I think)
Didn't you ever listen to Bob Barker? He said to have your Black Eyed Peas spayed and neutered...

We cut everything down on the farm, may want to be careful if you come down to visit....LOL
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Old 09-14-2013, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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................wondering what pea fries would be like...............
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Old 09-14-2013, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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................wondering what pea fries would be like...............
They taste like chicken....
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