10-26-2013, 02:36 AM
Location: The Other California
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Do you mean that there are large groups of LGBT people trying to convert straight people?
To convert them to acceptance and approval? Or to silence? Absolutely.
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10-26-2013, 05:34 AM
Location: OK
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I suppose it's a matter of degree. Here in CA, they're always "out and proud" and ready to punish anyone who resists. I once owned a business that was subject to LGBT vandalism and harassment. But I've been studying Oklahoma for a while - talking to people, reading the news, exploring the culture. I'm quite certain that, in most parts of OK, those who are afflicted with this particular moral disorder aren't as eager to shout it from the rooftops. Nor are the majority of Oklahomans, who believe homosexual behavior to be sinful, likely to suffer any social or legal sanctions due to their beliefs. That looks pretty good from here!
I don't think you will be happy here. OKC has openly Gay Pride decorations in their streets and most Okies would dislike you for your views.
You may be happier moving closer to Fred Phelps.
10-26-2013, 05:37 AM
Location: OK
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To convert them to acceptance and approval? Or to silence? Absolutely.
Are you kidding me?
Besides, why do other people's sexual orientation concern you so much? If you are so much against thr lifestyle don't participate in it.
I have some severe moral objections to people with your views. But if you were my neighbor I would ignore your lifestyle and whatever you do on your property.
10-26-2013, 07:05 AM
Location: Area 51.5
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I don't think you will be happy here. OKC has openly Gay Pride decorations in their streets and most Okies would dislike you for your views.
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Are you kidding me? But if you were my neighbor I would ignore your lifestyle and whatever you do on your property.
I don't think you know how silly that is. First, it's open in the streets. Then it's ignore what's on your property.
Which is it? In the streets or on private property.
Very confused.
This thread has gotten more attention than the actual event. The only one I've heard protesting it is some tribal councilwoman person.
As usual, nobody cares what the gay couple does. Just do it and shut up about it. It's not earth shattering, it's not revolutionary. Just go do it and be done with it!
10-26-2013, 07:51 AM
Location: Tulsa, OK
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I suppose it's a matter of degree. Here in CA, they're always "out and proud" and ready to punish anyone who resists. I once owned a business that was subject to LGBT vandalism and harassment. But I've been studying Oklahoma for a while - talking to people, reading the news, exploring the culture. I'm quite certain that, in most parts of OK, those who are afflicted with this particular moral disorder aren't as eager to shout it from the rooftops. Nor are the majority of Oklahomans, who believe homosexual behavior to be sinful, likely to suffer any social or legal sanctions due to their beliefs. That looks pretty good from here!
I dont think there is anywhere on earth where you can run to escape what really bothers you about homosexuality.
10-26-2013, 07:52 AM
Location: Tulsa, OK
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I don't think you know how silly that is. First, it's open in the streets. Then it's ignore what's on your property.
It seems you're the one who is confused. There was nothing silly at all about her comment.
10-26-2013, 07:55 AM
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I saw repeated requests for a Bible verse that addresses same sex marriage. One reference from Matthew was mentioned. Here is a different one. DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER. My response is not given in malice, but as an answer to a question.Leviticus 20:13
10-26-2013, 07:59 AM
Location: Deep Dirty South
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I saw repeated requests for a Bible verse that addresses same sex marriage. One reference from Matthew was mentioned. Here is a different one. DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER. My response is not given in malice, but as an answer to a question.Leviticus 20:13
Yes, but some of the laws in Leviticus also involve the trading and treatment of slaves, edicts against eating shellfish and wearing clothes with blended fabrics, and executing children who dishonor their parents.
Why do people ignore these and still rail against homosexuality? Pretty hypocritical.
We don't know that Jesus said a word about it, but he said a lot about not judging others and forgiveness and acceptance.
10-26-2013, 08:38 AM
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Unless Oklahoma's Indian tribes live in self-contained bubbles and never mingle with their neighbors, what they believe, say, and do has an effect on all Oklahomans. All residents of your state should be very concerned.
My god, do you even live in Oklahoma?
Just because gay marriage is against your beliefs, doesn't mean it should be against the law for everyone else in the country. Sorry to bust your bubble.
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Besides, "sovereignty" is never absolute for any nation. Just ask Americans who live in border states. How's that U.S. sovereignty working out for them?
Border states??!! LOL! You are so funny. You are off topic again. The topic has nothing to do with border states and their illegals.
10-26-2013, 08:46 AM
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I saw repeated requests for a Bible verse that addresses same sex marriage. One reference from Matthew was mentioned. Here is a different one. DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER. My response is not given in malice, but as an answer to a question.Leviticus 20:13
Don't forget the bible verse for God Hates Foreskins too.
Maybe the couple who got married do not wish to conform to judeo-christian beliefs.
We were talking about this bible stuff on another forum. As a native, I could care less about a heaven with streets of gold. Gold is not a priority to me. And the jewish version of what constitutes heaven is culturally significant for them. Not me. So the same goes for the scriptures that refelct a jewish culture 2000 + years ago.
The problem is some people have their panties in a scrunch because everyone is not forced to conform to their beliefs. Thank you!
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Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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My god, do you even live in Oklahoma? 
Maybe the couple who got married do not wish to conform to judeo-christian beliefs. 
