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Old 11-30-2007, 04:23 AM
 
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Can't we send all of this factories elsewhere? Like far away?
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Hughes County, Oklahoma
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The chicken producers need to pay to have the chicken litter taken somewhere else, like central or western Oklahoma, to be used as fertilizer. That will make chicken cost more, but we will have to pay more if we want non-polluted water.

We looked into a program to transport some litter to our farm to use on our hayfields. For various reasons, it didn't work out. We know a couple of farmers that did get some, and it worked well.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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I'm sure I could have stated my sentiments in a more discrete way...
(I need to remember I'm on an "international" forum.)

When we were looking at places to relocate to, we found a lot of nice looking, inexpensive properties in OH, but I had a look at the laws there, and decided I wouldn't live there even if the house was free.

That was one of the many reasons I left MA.

Now that I'm hearing it from someone who actually lives in OH, I feel a lot better about my decision.

M.
What kind of laws are so burdensome in Ohio? I'm curious.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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No, no, no....

Groveton, NH, Berlin, NH and Gorham, NH.
(I need to remember I'm on an "international" forum.)

The mill in Groveton wasn't too bad, you didn't have to cover your face and blast through town at all due speed...

Now the Berlin mill was another story, I never really got to see Berlin because we were always in a hurry to get out of there before anyone puked. I did finally get to enjoy its finer aspects after the mill closed though.

M.
I guess assumed Germany because of it's industialism
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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jessaka wrote:
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By this definition I am a tree hugger.
I want a clean Illinois River, clean drinking water, clean air. I want forests not to be cut down. I want to save the birds and and other little creatures. Doesn't everyone?

To that StillwaterTownie comments:
No, not everyone does in Oklahoma, especially the Republicans for in their 2007 platform they state in not only one but two places that animal waste should not be labeled as hazardous. If you ask me, Oklahoma Republicans want to get too close with what the big time chicken, cow and hog farming operations want. Unless you don't care about clean Oklahoma lakes and streams, please don't vote for any Republicans for the Oklahoma Legislature in 2008. At the very least, if you're thinking about voting for a Republican, be sure to ask him or her this question and only accept a resounding NO!:

"Are you in agreement with your party's statements in its 2007 platform that animal waste should not be labeled as hazardous?"
Jessaka, I may have worked in the woods when I was a kid, but now you could say that I'm some what of an "environmentalist".
With all of the polluted water wells (from "perculate") in Ca. it's hard not to turn against it.

ComputerGuy
I was in OHIO last year. I have a brother in ASHLAND. He owns a Heating and Air Conditioning business.
I had plans of moving there before Oklahoma became the final destination.

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Old 11-30-2007, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Most certainly. Oklahomas nicest lakes have been tainted by chicken waste that trickles down from Ar-Kansas. Thanks
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Tyson chicken
for giving us a bad stereotype.
Tysons is being boycotted for hiring illegal immigrants.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:12 PM
 
Location: In My Own Little World. . .
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Default They Want to Change The Environment

Since this thread initially started out on what will happen to OK when all us "city folk" move there, I thought you would all enjoy this story DH read in the NY Times yesterday. Seems as though a builder built 3000+ square foot $700,000+ houses in an area that overlooked a very large farm in upper New York state. The farm was designated as whatever the designation is where they have to always be a farm. The builder sold them to those who wanted to gaze over the beautiful farmland from their VERY EXPENSIVE windows. No hustle and bustle of the city. No snarling traffic to encroach on their mini-mansions. All was wonderful until the "city folk" realized that farms make noise and (gulp) have smells!!! A group of them went to the town to complain about this unsavory environment surrounding their exclusive homes. They were told by the township committee that "farms rule" and get over it. The article was filled with whining rich people who had to live with what they thought they wanted to live with. What a hoot!
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:59 AM
 
Location: Somewhere! :)
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What kind of laws are so burdensome in Ohio? I'm curious.
I'll leave the big list for our OH resident here, but have a look at the OH gun laws...
They're Draconian... Right up there with MA.

In fact a couple of months ago in OH a young off-duty cop took his AR-15 out of his trunk and shot 30 people at a party... Would have been nice if a few of the victims had been able to defend themselves... Imagine how many lives would have been saved.

If you look at the statistics, the states with less restrictive gun laws have a lot less crime. This is a fact.

Criminals don't care about the law, only law abiding citizens get disarmed by these laws.

M.
(Getting off his soapbox)
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Old 12-01-2007, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Somewhere! :)
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ComputerGuy
I was in OHIO last year. I have a brother in ASHLAND. He owns a Heating and Air Conditioning business.
I had plans of moving there before Oklahoma became the final destination.
So what changed your mind?

M.
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:00 AM
 
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What does DH stand for. Surely not DeadHead.
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