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Old 07-19-2016, 11:40 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Good post, bawac. I was really surprised when the medical marijuana attempt netted such a large number of voters who wanted their 420. We are getting closer! I can always dream, right? Maybe it will be legal by the time I am ready for social security.
My guess is it will be legalized in surrounding states and decriminalized here. That will probably happen by 2030 more than likely. Like tattoos and 3.2 beer, Oklahoma will finally legalize marijuana in 2050 or 2060 when it is the last or one of the last to still ban it.
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Old 07-19-2016, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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If you want to try to get medical marijuana legalized in Oklahoma this November, then you need to sign the petition to do that at one of these locations: https://oklahomansforhealth.com/map.

They have about 3/4 of the total of 66,000 signatures needed no later than Aug. 11. But want at least 86,000 to allow for bad signatures. If you want to make extra money, then they finally found some donors to cover that. Pay is $1 per pair of signatures. They are also running another petition for petition reform, so petitioners would get a year to get enough signatures, rather than the current 90 days. However, though, if medical marijuana doesn't get on the ballot, you won't get paid a thin dime.

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Old 07-19-2016, 06:14 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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Why Ardmore? I've been there, and have heard nothing but horror stories about crime up there.

Ardmore is over an hour away from where I live and probably close to two hours from Dallas or Fort Worth. Even in the very border like Gainesville it's still a lengthy commute.
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Old 07-19-2016, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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It's about demographics. Texas barely has a white majority. Like California, Latinos make up a large segment of the population. Texas Hispanics could turn the state blue if they abandoned the GOP in large enough numbers. The only reason Texas is still red is because Texas Hispanics are generally more conservative than California Hispanics or they aren't politically active.

Oklahoma on the other hand is a rural, Southern state in the traditional sense and its cities aren't large or diverse enough to make it competitive outside a possible landslide situation. Even then, it would have to be a 49 state landslide or close to it for a Democrat to have a chance at winning Oklahoma.
Actually, Texas barely has a white plurality. That could change by 2020.
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Old 07-20-2016, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Why Ardmore? I've been there, and have heard nothing but horror stories about crime up there.

Ardmore is over an hour away from where I live and probably close to two hours from Dallas or Fort Worth. Even in the very border like Gainesville it's still a lengthy commute.
I don't know why. I've been there and wouldn't want to live there.
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Old 07-21-2016, 12:40 AM
 
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It's about demographics. Texas barely has a white majority. Like California, Latinos make up a large segment of the population. Texas Hispanics could turn the state blue if they abandoned the GOP in large enough numbers. The only reason Texas is still red is because Texas Hispanics are generally more conservative than California Hispanics or they aren't politically active.

Oklahoma on the other hand is a rural, Southern state in the traditional sense and its cities aren't large or diverse enough to make it competitive outside a possible landslide situation. Even then, it would have to be a 49 state landslide or close to it for a Democrat to have a chance at winning Oklahoma.
The original statement I disagreed with was that Texas would be a safe blue state starting this next election.

I am aware of the demographics.

And it might become a purple state if purple martians landed in TX in droves and started voting for the purple martian party. TX turning into a safe blue state only has slightly better odds than that.

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Why Ardmore? I've been there, and have heard nothing but horror stories about crime up there.

Ardmore is over an hour away from where I live and probably close to two hours from Dallas or Fort Worth. Even in the very border like Gainesville it's still a lengthy commute.
Yes, its difficult. 3 of my neighbors got robbed last year, 1 of my relatives was shot in a drive by, and at least half the people I know have had some type of violent crime happen to them. It like a penny dreadful novel here.

It is about an hour to Denton, I would imagine that would make it however long it takes you to get from Denton to there, + 1hr, to get from Ardmore to Dallas or Fort Worth .

Nobody living in Denton has much room to throw mud about living in a crappy town.

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I don't know why. I've been there and wouldn't want to live there.
LOL, says someone from Stillwater.
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Old 07-21-2016, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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LOL, says someone from Stillwater.
Right. Ardmore is too far away from Oklahoma City and Tulsa.
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:14 PM
 
Location: NE, Oklahoma
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Ardmore is #1 in the state for crime per capita. I wouldn't want to live there.
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Old 07-21-2016, 04:46 PM
 
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Right. Ardmore is too far away from Oklahoma City and Tulsa.
Its 1.5 hrs to OKC. about 20 mins more than it takes someone from stillwater to make it.

But I really don't ever go, because there isn't much there anyways.

It is only 1.5 hrs away from being well inside the DFW metro, which is hands down a much better place than either OKC or Tulsa, for....well, anything.
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Old 07-21-2016, 06:13 PM
 
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My guess is it will be legalized in surrounding states and decriminalized here. That will probably happen by 2030 more than likely. Like tattoos and 3.2 beer, Oklahoma will finally legalize marijuana in 2050 or 2060 when it is the last or one of the last to still ban it.
I wouldn't go so far as putting a year on it. They need to decriminalize or lower the maximum sentencing on simple possession of marijuana. There are so many doing time in OK DOC for simple possession it is nuts. And the use of sentence enhancements, I have seen crazy sentences like 20 years for simple possesison with a 10 year sentence for the Possession of Drug Paraphernalia (rolling papers) running concurrently.

And as long as we have Gov. Fallin in office, legalized medical marijuana stands little chance of being passed.

As the older folks die out I think the tide will turn. Certain segments of society will get out and vote, and the others have too much apathy or are just too damn lazy.


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