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Old 03-07-2017, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I agree with your stance on sex education; it should be beefed up. However, it's clearly not enough. There will always be unwanted pregnancies.

As for what is and what is not your business, if abortion is murder, and we have more than simple rationale to show this is the case, why would we not seek to save lives?

As for bringing Christianity into the argument, it's not necessary. The Pro Life movement can stand on empiricism and science alone.

Good effort, but like OhioLady, your views to overcome basic contradictions in your argument regarding this matter have been weighed and found wanting.

Cheers.
Then what is it you believe in? Forced birth for women? Requiring pregnant women to register when they become pregnant, so their pregnancy can be tracked? Or what? Or just ban abortion and hope pregnant women don't flock to the Internet looking for do it yourself abortion?
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Old 03-12-2017, 10:29 AM
 
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Abortion is nothing more than a miscarriage, only God didn't do it. Does this make God cruel for performing abortions? Just a question.
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Old 03-12-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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Being pro-life and ending abortion really begins with the individual. If you don't want to bring a new baby into the world, then please don't indulge in sexual intercourse. You can try to go around that by using birth control, but good luck on it working.
Birth control pills work well, but the poor can't afford them, and some religions are against them.
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Old 03-12-2017, 10:52 AM
 
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Ah, Townie. There is so much imprecision in your post I do not know where to start. Darwin Award post of the day, no?

Again, one does not have to insert religion into this dialogue just as you have done in some of your posts.

This need not be a religious issue. It is a simple common sense issue regarding humanity. You can make it theological if you want to, but I do not have to. I can look to the empirical data we have access to now---i.e., the clarity of ultrasounds within the womb.

There are many ProLife atheists, agnostics, etc. that have an aversion for anything theological yet still can look at the scientific data honestly and make the obvious observation that within the womb of a pregnant womb is a human child. Go ahead and advance outmoded stereotypes like your caricature of me utilizing a Bible verse to defend my position (which I have not done), but you do nothing to add to the dialogue when you do so.

Cheers.

secularprolife

About Pro-Life Humanists - Pro-Life Humanists
If we want to save humanity, we need to stop producing so many children, little gentleman.
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Old 03-12-2017, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Birth control pills work well, but the poor can't afford them, and some religions are against them.
Self control is FREE.
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Old 03-12-2017, 12:31 PM
 
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Self control is FREE.
You are so right, but what if a woman is married and doesn't want children, and they are poor, and so they don't want babies? I think birth control pills should be free to anyone old enough to have a baby. People just don't have self control, and I think it is because the sex drive is the strongest drive in humans, unless they are hungry.

I am all for women abstaining until the government changes the law s in their favor.
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Old 03-12-2017, 12:58 PM
 
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Birth control pills work well, but the poor can't afford them, and some religions are against them.
https://www.ok.gov/triton/search.php...9%3BNB%3A1#947
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Old 03-12-2017, 04:15 PM
 
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That is good to know.
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Old 03-12-2017, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Self control is FREE.

Good point.


If men would stop having sex unless they and the woman have both decided they want a baby women wouldn't be getting abortions.


There you go, problem solved.
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Old 03-12-2017, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Good point.


If men would stop having sex unless they and the woman have both decided they want a baby women wouldn't be getting abortions.


There you go, problem solved.
There you go. BINGO! And there are other ways of having sex that don't require intercourse.
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