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Old 04-01-2018, 06:51 AM
 
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Sometimes I think whenever we get into the news it is never good. Now Washington Post, and others have written about the teachers here striking.

If anyone wants to move here they should know that many teachers leave due to poor wages and many classes are overcrowded. If you wish to move here, this is a good place to retire, oh, wait, we can't keep doctors either. Well, Tulsa has some of the best I have heard.

Anyway, I just wanted to chime in.
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Old 04-01-2018, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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Sadly it's been that way a long time. Many of the people I knew in NE Oklahoma who became teachers back in the 70's and 80's moved to Texas for better pay
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Old 04-01-2018, 08:11 AM
 
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Considering COL and actual hours worked - 46k minimum is thaaaat bad?
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Old 04-01-2018, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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As long as Oklahomans insist upon reelecting incumbent Republican legislators, bad things about Oklahoma will remain the same. In other words, don't vote for incumbents, it only encourages them!

Also if you're poor, please don't be dumb enough to move to Oklahoma. Food stamps have been cut for $16 a month to $8. They're also trying to make it harder to get on Medicaid.
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Old 04-01-2018, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Considering COL and actual hours worked - 46k minimum is thaaaat bad?
Yes. If it was good, Oklahoma teachers wouldn't be fleeing to the Dallas-Ft. Worth area and other places for higher pay. And if you have kids, they're mighty expensive.
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Old 04-01-2018, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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Considering COL and actual hours worked - 46k minimum is thaaaat bad?
If that was the total income for a family of 4 it would be very difficult to own a home,have a reliable car, pay utilities, buy clothes, buy food and have anything at all left over for things we all take for granted like cell phones, cable tv, movies and vacation.
If both adults in the family are teaching they can probably do ok but not fantastic.
My dad had a small construction company and every summer he'd employ at least 2 teachers for the summer. They counted on that money to help them get by.
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Old 04-01-2018, 12:35 PM
 
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If that was the total income for a family of 4 it would be very difficult to own a home,have a reliable car, pay utilities, buy clothes, buy food and have anything at all left over for things we all take for granted like cell phones, cable tv, movies and vacation.
If both adults in the family are teaching they can probably do ok but not fantastic.
My dad had a small construction company and every summer he'd employ at least 2 teachers for the summer. They counted on that money to help them get by.
Factors in the actual hourly wage - hours worked, benefits received, pensions at the end of the road, summer jobs, .... Tuttle went to 4-day classes with teachers covering after school on day five.

It is ok, you have your soap box of low pay, bad system.
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Old 04-01-2018, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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Factors in the actual hourly wage - hours worked, benefits received, pensions at the end of the road, summer jobs, .... Tuttle went to 4-day classes with teachers covering after school on day five.

It is ok, you have your soap box of low pay, bad system.
good grief.
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Old 04-02-2018, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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Considering COL and actual hours worked - 46k minimum is thaaaat bad?
Where do you find that number?


By the numbers: Closer look at minimum Oklahoma teacher salary under proposed plan | KFOR.com

The issues extend beyond just teacher salaries.

https://www.economist.com/news/unite...k-whats-matter
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Old 04-02-2018, 06:15 AM
 
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OK Dept. of Education, you should also be able to pull numbers by name.
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