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Old 01-08-2010, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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If you think you can fudge on insurance, enjoy it while you can..........

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It is estimated that one in four cars on Oklahoma roads has no liability insurance, in spite of mandatory insurance law, said a state lawmaker.
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“Law enforcement officers in adequately computerized patrol cars can now enter a license tag number into a data base. Eight seconds later they know if the car is insured,” Martin said. “If the patrol car is not computerized, the officer can call the tag number in to his dispatcher and get the same results.”



Under House Bill 2331, if a car is uninsured, it would be seized immediately by the officer and towed to an impoundment lot until all of the requirements of the law are satisfied.
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Old 01-08-2010, 03:36 PM
 
Location: On this planet most of the time
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If you think you can fudge on insurance, enjoy it while you can..........

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Good I am glad they are finally doing something. I am tired of my ins. going up to cover the costs of the idiots that don't bother to buy car insurance.
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:23 AM
 
Location: So. Dak.
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Me, too. I think this was a fabulous move! Maybe some day we can drop uninsured and underinsured parts of our car insurance. Yea, I know I'm dreaming there.
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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The cops here in Elyria Ohio are to lazy to check'm as they go, they wait untill the uninsured almost kill someone and then the courts smack them on the hand and send them on thier way.

A couple months ago a friend of mine was broad sided on his bike by a driver that was 18 and run a stop sign. Driving mommy's uninsured 2007 car and the courts hit him with a $20.00 fine and a $100.00 court cost, and thats all

My friend who designed his bike to carry his wheel chair and him, well it put him in the hospital for three weeks and they didn't know if he would ever get his memory back or not. He did thank the Creator, but now he he has a ton of bills to pay. We held a benifit for him and raised a almost to cover his needs, but he still has some bills left to pay. We talked him into getting one of the nastiest lawyers in the area and they are going after the punks mothers home insurance and everything else she has. Oh, and did I forget to say the she is a section 8 rider and the 18 year old in a welfare rider .

And its a know fact that the idiot that sat on the bench and let the punk go is a known biker hater, because his ex-ole-lady left him for a biker.
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Old 01-09-2010, 10:10 AM
 
Location: So. Dak.
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EB, that's awful!!! WE just had an incident in Sx. Falls, too. Someone had seven DUIs and got out after only serving two years of his five year sentence. It sounds like his g/f broke up with him and he went out and got drunk again, ran from police, ran a red light, and slammed into a pickup driven by a 69 year old man and killed him. I'll bet ya anything that he didn't have insurance or even a driver's license, for that matter.

The difference is that in our state, I don't think his sentence will be light or that the rest of his life will be very good. And just in case you're curious~I think the guy is only in his early 30s and he's had run-ins with the law his entire life. I guess they just kept wanting to give him more chances to do something with his life. It's too bad it didn't work out and I feel so bad for the family of the man who ended up being his victim.
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Old 01-09-2010, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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[quote=Jammie;12369636].........I'll bet ya anything that he didn't have insurance or even a driver's license, for that matter./quote]
severa things popped into my head as I read both accounts. two things about yours Jammie........first, I understand and applaud the compassion of the judges, however I don't think it was a matter of compassion.....it was a matter of money. Putting a young man in prison for his entire youth and optimally productive years is a sobering decision (pun not intended). Incarcerating a guy is a high cost decision particularly when the courts are backed up and prisons are over crowded and we need the space for "real" criminals like pot smokers hookers, and meth cookers.

One of the problems with situations like this is that the guy himself is a proven threat to society. He has shown he has no respect for the law. All the laws imaginable would not have stopped him. Passing more laws is not the problem. Enforcing the laws we have would have stopped him.

EB, studies in social responsibility should be part of the section 8 prerequisites. Several systems look like they failed there.......how did a section 8 (indicating limited income and what should be some income management support) come to have a 2 year old car? How come the car finance company let the insurance lapse? Tell the attorney he should go after the car finance company........if they had done their job, they would have repoed it right after the insurance dropped.
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Old 01-09-2010, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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.........I'll bet ya anything that he didn't have insurance or even a driver's license, for that matter./quote]
severa things popped into my head as I read both accounts. two things about yours Jammie........first, I understand and applaud the compassion of the judges, however I don't think it was a matter of compassion.....it was a matter of money. Putting a young man in prison for his entire youth and optimally productive years is a sobering decision (pun not intended). Incarcerating a guy is a high cost decision particularly when the courts are backed up and prisons are over crowded and we need the space for "real" criminals like pot smokers hookers, and meth cookers.

One of the problems with situations like this is that the guy himself is a proven threat to society. He has shown he has no respect for the law. All the laws imaginable would not have stopped him. Passing more laws is not the problem. Enforcing the laws we have would have stopped him.

EB, studies in social responsibility should be part of the section 8 prerequisites. Several systems look like they failed there.......how did a section 8 (indicating limited income and what should be some income management support) come to have a 2 year old car? How come the car finance company let the insurance lapse? Tell the attorney he should go after the car finance company........if they had done their job, they would have repoed it right after the insurance dropped.
To my knowledge, they are doing just that. But as far as the , "how could they have a 2 yr old car and be on section 8 question", I don't know. But then again, how could and how is it possible that a 18 yr old punk be on welfare, again I don't know. Some people know how to work the system and usually have plenty of help inside the system to get what they DON'T deserve. But we are working on getting him all the help he needs to get his money back, even to the point of going after Ohio and it's lame insurance law that suppose to make sure these people have insurance before and after they get thier tags renewed. All insurance companies should be reporting this information to the state if a client drops or get dropped from insuring the motor vehicles.
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Old 01-12-2010, 03:56 PM
 
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Wow, I cant believe Im reading this. The Insurance industry has been behind this for years, and their Lobby groups have donated millions of dollars to corrupt Politicians to get to this point. Who will benefit the most from this Bill if it becomes Law?, Big surprise, Insurance companies, and the same Politicians who are becoming their Puppets, and Oh Yes, the State Coffers. Will this stop the uninsured from driving? will it make the Insurance companies Richer? Will it truly beneifit a poor family who must choose between food or High priced insurance? How about a real solution that provides affordable insurance, and takes the Attorneys and Insurance companies out of the Loop so we can have Insurance that everyone can afford. Being a single parent, or being Poor and making minimum wage is not a crime. Unless your a Rich Politician, Insurance executive, or just uninformed, who supports this Bill.
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Old 01-13-2010, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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In California you can't registar a car or renew your license without proof of insurance
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Old 01-14-2010, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Duncan, OK
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In California you can't registar a car or renew your license without proof of insurance
For registration and tag renewal it's the same here in Oklahoma MK... And they also take it a step further to stop the people who get Insurance for a month or so (just to register or renew their tags) and then cancel it.

I'd have to look up the exact wording, but basically if you cancel your insurance within a certain period of time and do not get NEW insurance somewhere else the Insurance company will report to the State of OK and your license will be suspended.
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