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Old 01-31-2020, 02:08 AM
 
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Is the omaha metro as long and wide as Minneapolis and St. Paul? I was looking at it on google earth and it looks like from Waterloo NE to Council Bluffs it's about 30 miles of continuous population. From Wayzeta to Woodbury it's about 30 miles. About the same as omaha.

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Old 01-31-2020, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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Is the omaha metro as long and wide as Minneapolis and St. Paul? I was looking at it on google earth and it looks like from Waterloo NE to Council Bluffs it's about 30 miles of continuous population. From Wayzeta to Woodbury it's about 30 miles. About the same as omaha.
Omaha is very sprawling for its size, but population density overall is lower compared to most of the Twin Cities. Minneapolis has around 7,000 people per square mile in the city limits, Omaha is well less than half of that density in most cases, with suburban areas generally remaining about 1,500-2,500 people per square mile.
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Old 01-31-2020, 08:40 PM
 
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Could be close, but MSP extends further west than Wayzeta and quite a distance from north to south.
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Old 02-01-2020, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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Is the omaha metro as long and wide as Minneapolis and St. Paul? I was looking at it on google earth and it looks like from Waterloo NE to Council Bluffs it's about 30 miles of continuous population. From Wayzeta to Woodbury it's about 30 miles. About the same as omaha.
I'm very connected to both cities. I've been to both so many times I can't count it.

There is very little about Omaha that reminds me of the Twin Cities. Totally different vibe.

Omaha (other than North Omaha) reminds me more of a large Des Moines or Sioux Falls, SD. The Twin Cities with it's endless connected suburbs has a much bigger metro feel.

I enjoy both cities for different reasons. Clubbing in Omaha is actually better than in Minneapolis. Old Market in the summer is 'happening" and very safe. Walking the streets in Minneapolis about closing time in the downtown has actually turned very dangerous (reference the Minneapolis thread on City_Data).

The Twin Cities has all the major sports and arts scenes. Omaha's offering for both is the next step down, but still very entertaining. The exception being the College World Series which is a really big deal and very exciting.

I enjoy going to both cities. I would actually choose to live in the Omaha area before the Twin Cities, but that's just a personal preference. I like a small town atmosphere with a short commute to the larger adjacent city. You can have that in Omaha.
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Old 02-01-2020, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Chisago Lakes, Minnesota
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Walking the streets in Minneapolis about closing time in the downtown has actually turned very dangerous (reference the Minneapolis thread on City_Data).
Yep, and St. Paul is setting records for violent crime ever since Carter was elected. In his world fireworks on 4th of July are a no no, but murder rates going through the roof are nothing to worry about. Real shame, that is a beautiful city going to he** in a handbasket.

But to the OP's question, I would say metro MSP stretches further from north to south, depending on what one considers the "metro" to be. The current MSA definition goes from Faribault in southern Minnesota all the way to the south shore of Mille Lacs, which is roughly 130 miles. Even if you chop that in half in favor of a more conservative (and realistic) definition it's still a lot wider than any 2 points in the Omaha area. The MSA of MSP also stretches well into western Wisconsin to the east, FYI.
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Old 02-02-2020, 02:52 PM
 
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In your title, you mentioned "vibe and people", but then you didn't bring it up again.

So . . . . vibe and people? Nope. No slam on Omaha, but of the Twin Cities (and you really have to compare metropolitan regions here) I would consider St. Paul closer in league with Omaha, not Minneapolis. I've had many work trips to both city and suburban clients of the Twin Cities and there definitely is a more developed arts, literary, transit, foodie, and live theatre scene in the Twin Cities, ostensibly by having roughly 3 times the population as the Omaha metro. Naturally, a population difference such as this between these two cities makes a difference to lifestyle and offerings. Omaha does very well for its size, but the Twin Cities is in a different tier.
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Old 02-15-2020, 04:59 PM
 
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Just a few random thoughts on this: The people are pretty much the same in MSP vs Omaha, except the Twin Cities have more hipsters, ethnic groups and college students. For vibe, your comparing a metro of 3.6 million vs. 900K. I mean, Hennepin County alone has as many people as Omaha and Lincoln metros combined.

The Twin Cities have more hustle and bustle, traffic and transit and seems to be more out door orientated with the lakes and all the bike trails etc., although Omaha does have a good trail system. The Twin Cities have a much bigger Asian culture than many people from outside the area realize, and I don't believe there is much in the way of that in Omaha, at least from my experience. The Twin Cities airport has many more flights and connections. Downtown Omaha is lovely and definitely more laid back than Downtown Minneapolis. I enjoy Downtown Omaha and feel relaxed there. Minneapolis, being a larger city, gets more homeless and shady people walking around (not saying they're one in the same) and as clean as Minneapolis generally is, central Minneapolis feels dirtier than Downtown Omaha. Housing is less expensive in Omaha.

The suburban areas are generally similar except the housing developments feel different, not sure how to describe it. The Twin Cities have swaths of suburban areas that are more spread out and feel wealthier than much of suburban Omaha. A lot of Minneapolis suburbs had to be built around lakes and wetlands and aren't on the grid system like Omaha, however there are many dense areas in the Twin Cities suburbs, more so than you would find in urban Omaha. The Twin Cities are the center of pretty much everything Minnesota (capital, flagship University, economic, transportation, economic, State Fair) where as Nebraska is more distributed. I think this leaves some rural areas of Minnesota feeling more alienated from the metro than rural Nebraskan's would feel towards Omaha or Lincoln.
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Old 03-26-2020, 09:05 PM
 
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No it is not. It is a very midwestern, very, forgive me, redneck town. Sometimes this is good and you meet kind real deal christians, and sometimes you meet aggressive hicks. Coming from the coast, I was shocked at the amount of aggressive hicks. I used to be a conservative, but after living in O-town I realized the liberals are nicer people. Sometimes passive aggressive and cold, but nicer people, overall. There are lots of good people in O-town but if you're looking for a place with a vibe similar to Minneapolis, may I suggest Chicago or even Detroit? Omaha is also overpriced for what you get. Apparently 10 years ago it was much cheaper.
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Old 03-27-2020, 07:00 AM
 
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No it is not. It is a very midwestern, very, forgive me, redneck town. Sometimes this is good and you meet kind real deal christians, and sometimes you meet aggressive hicks. Coming from the coast, I was shocked at the amount of aggressive hicks. I used to be a conservative, but after living in O-town I realized the liberals are nicer people. Sometimes passive aggressive and cold, but nicer people, overall. There are lots of good people in O-town but if you're looking for a place with a vibe similar to Minneapolis, may I suggest Chicago or even Detroit? Omaha is also overpriced for what you get. Apparently 10 years ago it was much cheaper.
This statement is the opposite of some studies. I've always looked at Omaha as being a very economical place to live basing average pay vs cost of living. Only true negative is taxes are a little high, especially compared to neighboring Iowa and South Dakota.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/27/us-c...of-living.html

Your statement COMING FROM THE COAST tells me you showed up with an affliction known as a Superiority Complex. Very common. For the locals to appear as aggressive hicks one can only wonder how you presented yourself as a first impression.

I will agree with you that the 2 cities of Omaha & Minneapolis are not very similar. However, you can't compare the Twin Cities to Chicago. That's two cities with very little in common as to the lifestyle, the people living there, and general makeup of each metro.
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:23 AM
 
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This statement is the opposite of some studies. I've always looked at Omaha as being a very economical place to live basing average pay vs cost of living. Only true negative is taxes are a little high, especially compared to neighboring Iowa and South Dakota.

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/27/us-cities-with-high-paying-jobs-and-low-cost-of-living.html[/URL]

Your statement COMING FROM THE COAST tells me you showed up with an affliction known as a Superiority Complex. Very common. For the locals to appear as aggressive hicks one can only wonder how you presented yourself as a first impression.

I will agree with you that the 2 cities of Omaha & Minneapolis are not very similar. However, you can't compare the Twin Cities to Chicago. That's two cities with very little in common as to the lifestyle, the people living there, and general makeup of each metro.

I have relatives in Chicago and the Twin cities. They're from the same family. They live the same lives. One bikes more in Minneapolis and one runs more in Chi-town. They're both good people.


[URL]https://www.omaha.com/money/omaha-s-low-cost-of-living-was-once-its-economic/article_462d9d36-2497-545b-9c62-62e29dcece8f.html[/URL]


Whatever you say. That must have been written by those coastal elites hating on your polite and friendly, undiscovered ways. After all, everyone gets what they deserve. Surely someone moves to the midwest for the express purpose to stick their nose up. That's very insightful. Nail on head. The worst part was realizing when I move back, everyone will be saying "I told you so," and they were right.

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