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Old 07-16-2010, 09:34 PM
 
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Why doesn't Santa Ana or Long Beach have their own Costco? Why put a Costco in nearby Signal Hill for Long Beach and Santa Ana have Costcos in nearby cities, but not within the city itself? Also, this happened with Oakland.
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Old 07-16-2010, 09:48 PM
 
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Santa Ana had a Costco (Price Club, actually) but it lost it to Fountain Valley 20 years ago. Have you ever been to Santa Ana?
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Old 07-16-2010, 09:57 PM
 
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Santa Ana had a Costco (Price Club, actually) but it lost it to Fountain Valley 20 years ago. Have you ever been to Santa Ana?
I've drove through there and of my aunt's husband works there. From what I've heard, it's not the greatest place. So why did the Costco move to Fountain Valley? I thought Costcos try to be in each urban center. And Santa Ana I thought is the job center of OC.
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:21 PM
 
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I've drove through there and of my aunt's husband works there. From what I've heard, it's not the greatest place. So why did the Costco move to Fountain Valley? I thought Costcos try to be in each urban center. And Santa Ana I thought is the job center of OC.
Fountain Valley constructed a brand new shopping center just across the river and made Price Club the anchor tenant. I don't know how the size of the stores compared (the old one became a Home Depot) but the old parking lot was a lot smaller than the new one. I'm sure the city made them a sweet deal to move the store.

The terms "urban center" and "job center" don't really apply to Orange County. Its all one big place. Taxes, tax concessions, regulations, and the overall business climate of one city vs another can determine what city get a store when the cities all run together.
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:28 PM
 
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Fountain Valley constructed a brand new shopping center just across the river and made Price Club the anchor tenant. I don't know how the size of the stores compared (the old one became a Home Depot) but the old parking lot was a lot smaller than the new one. I'm sure the city made them a sweet deal to move the store.

The terms "urban center" and "job center" don't really apply to Orange County. Its all one big place. Taxes, tax concessions, regulations, and the overall business climate of one city vs another can determine what city get a store when the cities all run together.
So there is no urban center or job center for Orange County? Arent there many counties like this in California? Ventura County, Riverside, and San Bernardino County don't have a job center or urban center either then.

Is Costco not being in Santa Ana because it doesn't have enough middle class or upper middle class consumers to support one?

Is Costco for the middle class or upper middle class? I know California has alot of Costcos compared to most areas and we also have alot of malls. I know California is wealthy compared to most states, but does this explain why we have so many Costcos and malls?
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:58 PM
 
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Signal hill is really an enclave within Long Beach.

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Old 07-16-2010, 11:16 PM
 
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Signal hill is really an enclave with in Long Beach.
Okay, so is Costco an upper middle class or middle class thing? Trader Joes and Whole Foods I know are usually associated with mostly upper middle class and upper class shoppers going there. Malls are usually associated with upper middle class and upper class too I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 07-16-2010, 11:44 PM
 
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What are they teaching you at Sonoma State?

For starters Upper class people have people to shop for them in supermarkets. Costco is really forworking class and middle class.
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Old 07-17-2010, 12:18 AM
 
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Costco is really forworking class and middle class.
Club stores do require customers with enough disposable income to be able to tie up their money in a 6 month supply of toilet paper to save $0.10/roll. Poor people tend to buy small quantities even though the overall cost is higher. They're also unlikely to pay $55/yr for membership to a store. Costco also has a strong small business customer base who buy things like office supplies, software, computers, etc. I see Costco as a very middle to upper middle class kind of store.

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Old 07-17-2010, 12:27 AM
 
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So there is no urban center or job center for Orange County? Arent there many counties like this in California? Ventura County, Riverside, and San Bernardino County don't have a job center or urban center either then.
I don't know about other counties, but OC is very de-centralized. There's lots of jobs in Santa Ana but you could say the same thing about Irvine or Anaheim too.


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Is Costco not being in Santa Ana because it doesn't have enough middle class or upper middle class consumers to support one?
That could be part of it but its not like no one from Santa Ana shops in the Costcos in Fountain Valley or Tustin. People cross city lines all the time because they don't mean much. But when locating a store, you want to be closest to your prime customers who are likely to spend lots of money in your store. Santa Ana is a poor city compared to its neighbors. Santa Ana is also a much older city so simply finding enough available land for a Costco and the required parking lot is probably harder.
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