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Old 05-28-2011, 10:53 PM
 
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Seriously, though, it's just another example of companies leaving SoCal for greener pastures.

Governor Moonbeam, are you listening??!
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Old 05-28-2011, 11:09 PM
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Layoffs and obsolescence have been endemic to engineering forever....whether defense/aerospace of 70s or oil&gas of 80s

Many kids of those engineers learned lessons from their fathers and pursued careers in hedge funds or in sv tech

Ironically many of world's wealthiest and youngest today are engineers, albeit cs or EE....and often phd dropouts who went to some sv start up after some time at a big tech

Creative destruction also entails companies intellectually dying (including msft and goog) and those engineers who fail to advance own skills becoming underemployed and economically irrelevant.....inevitable phenoms when top 5 engineering schools produce some 2500 kids per yr...some 200/yr of whom really will make a mark in sv over a 20 yr Span until they semi-retire....
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:17 AM
 
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I remember the sixties when the engineer dad of my gf ended up buying a parking lot sweeping machine to sweep lots at night after the huge layoffs idled many hundreds, possibly into the thousands, of aerospace professionals in the Southland.
It was pretty grim then. My uncle (Autonetics) bought a gas station.
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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It was pretty grim then. My uncle (Autonetics) bought a gas station.
Autonetics later became Rockwell then Boeing Anaheim.

Neat old photos here:

Rocketdyne Archives - Autonetics
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:53 AM
 
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The Anaheim Autonetics had a huge pool for employees and their families. We got signed in as my uncle's "children" a few times.

That's how much money there was back then. The contractors built pools.
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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The Anaheim Autonetics had a huge pool for employees and their families. We got signed in as my uncle's "children" a few times.

That's how much money there was back then. The contractors built pools.
I used to take a helicopter from Boeing Rocketdyne to Boeing Anaheim for meetings and training (any Boeing employee could get a helicopter ride to/from Southern California Boeing facilities) and I used to swim laps in that pool at lunch - this is around 2001 or so. A few years later that pool and fitness facility were torn down and a new fitness facility was built, maybe a block east of the original pool but no new pool was built.

Boeing Canoga Park Rocketdyne (now Pratt and Whitney) has a fitness facility at Fallbrook near Roscoe with three pools and tennis courts and a fitness facility - like you wrote, built during the 1960s, the Apollo years. I swam laps in that pool for years during the summers. Odd thing though, the lap pool was only 23 yards long , very odd as almost every lap pool in the world is either 25 yards, 25 meters, or 50 meters.
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Old 06-26-2011, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Thought I'd paste this in due to the huge contrast:

With an accelerating production pace at its Puget Sound aircraft assembly plants, Boeing has added nearly 3,000 workers to its Washington state payrolls in the last five months.

from

Boeing and Paris Air Show: Boeing suffered setbacks at Paris Air Show, but analysts debate outlook - latimes.com

My friend that I've known since 2001 and coincidentally my neighbor now, just got laid off from 23 years with Boeing (Huntington Beach). Another friend got laid off in May from Boeing Huntington Beach too.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:02 AM
 
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I learned my lesson from my father 9.5 years at Autonetics...

It was sad to watch a man who loved what he did have to walk away at the end of Apollo.

What do I do you ask, advanced automotive tech... I an the guy that irons out your late model cars electrical and engine management systems, I held a California Smog license for 20 years, when I finally left the state. The systems I work on make the Apollo look primitive.

Pops had a cabinet shop in his backyard that was a hobby, after the layoffs it was his job, to get more income he wired motor homes. Then came the S-100 based computers then PCs... Pop went back to working on what he loved...

I run a small R/C plane kit manufacturing business on the side, I have friends telling me to produce a UAV or RPV... I just don't want to get involved with contacts that can dry up and ruin my business... I'm happy with what I can get from the general public and it's predictable.
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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In the early 1990s the security guards in our building were mostly laid off aerospace engineers.

It seems like a tough field to be in. You job is heavily dependant on politics and subject to change every 2-4 years.

A fried of ours got moved to a different position within the company. SHe will remaing with Boeing in OC, I cannot remember where she ended up within the county.
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