Why is Santa Ana the Rodney Dangerfield of OC cities (Orange: crimes, house)

[Urban Planner]

Originally Posted by hyperiongap

is that your back up account mbell? 34 posts in 4 years. Rofl.

hahahah! :d:d:d

[EseintheSA]

Originally Posted by Fast Cat

However, there maybe a ceiling for how much the arts can benefit an entire city of 300K plus people

Not buying into that one. I think the city should ride that horse for as long as it can

[NativeOrange]

Originally Posted by HyperionGap

Yep. Only two options. OC or Waunakee WI.


Since you don't think OC is a suburb why are you comparing it to suburbs?

Also, if you think "young people" are super keen to go to Disney land and Knotts berry farm you're a bit out of touch. You do realize were talking about people 21 plus right?

Disney is HUGE with young adults. I know dozens of people ages 16-24 who hold Disney passes and go pretty much whenever they feel like it. In fact, I think people in this age range get more excited about Disney than many younger kids do. Maybe it's a local thing here as Disney is very integrated into OC's culture and is very much a part of growing up here.

[Urban Planner]

Originally Posted by NativeOrange

Disney is HUGE with young adults. I know dozens of people ages 16-24 who hold Disney passes and go pretty much whenever they feel like it. In fact, I think people in this age range get more excited about Disney than many younger kids do. Maybe it's a local thing here as Disney is very integrated into OC's culture and is very much a part of growing up here.

Most definitely, the difference is that Disneyland (the park) is the experience, not the shops around. College aged kids and young professionals don't go to Downtown Disney to "hang out" like we would go to DTSA or other areas. Going to Disneyland is cool, going to hang out in Downtown Disney? uhhh yeah, not cool.

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by NativeOrange

Disney is HUGE with young adults. I know dozens of people ages 16-24 who hold Disney passes and go pretty much whenever they feel like it. In fact, I think people in this age range get more excited about Disney than many younger kids do. Maybe it's a local thing here as Disney is very integrated into OC's culture and is very much a part of growing up here.

At 600 or 700 bucks, a full pass is not cheap. They no longer sell that Southern California pass that was a bit more reasonable.

[NativeOrange]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

At 600 or 700 bucks, a full pass is not cheap. They no longer sell that Southern California pass that was a bit more reasonable.

That hasn't phased many of the people I know who still carry them. But I agree with Urban Planner, DisneyLAND is the only place these folks really go.

The only time I ever go to downtown Disney is if I have relatives visiting who want to go there, or if I am going to see a show at HOB.

[dexter14]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

At 600 or 700 bucks, a full pass is not cheap. They no longer sell that Southern California pass that was a bit more reasonable.

Not true, they still sell the SoCal Select pass and its only $289 a year. Besides, you can still renew the discontinued SoCal passes, you just can't buy them new. Even the Deluxe is only $519.

https://disneyland.disney.go.com/passes/

[mrsltd]

Originally Posted by Teckeeee

Santa Ana is starting to have more nice pockets, how someone referred to Costa Mesa to me years back.

Driving in SA today. Nice new development on Fairview and Alton, but the rest of the area, run down.

Driving up Bristol north of MacArthur it just get run down and gritty.

I don't understand how Mater Dei stays there they are surrounded by ghetto with a bunch of white kids from South County going there with cars worth more than mine.

The neighborhood right off 17th and Flower has some really nice maintained homes, some fully restored Victorians.

Alton is pretty far south, and that area is not so run down.

Bristol run down and gritty? Much better these days; it was far worse twenty years ago. You're probably thinking between 1st and Civic Center; much better anywhere south of 1st now.

It's been widened and given fresh plants.

That neighborhood you're typing about in your last sentence is known as Floral Park, and it extends from 17th to the city border and from Main St to Flower, where it becomes West Floral Park until you hit Bristol. After that you cross into Alona Park, which is not bad but a more typical offering on the "Santa Ana Menu".

There are more than pockets in the city elsewhere, and even in the rougher areas there are standout blocks and streets. A friend of mine lives in an area known as Wilshire Square, not too far from Memory Park. It is somewhat separated from the rest of the neighborhood by cement posts, if I remember correctly.

My last epic walk there (I work in the city so I often get my exercise there) was a surprise; 21st to Fairhaven between the railroad track and Grand Ave. Thought it was a nice but dinky neighborhood; far more to walk than I thought. Most houses were at least average; some were well up the scale. Good vibe.

[mrsltd]

Originally Posted by Urban Planner

Most definitely, the difference is that Disneyland (the park) is the experience, not the shops around. College aged kids and young professionals don't go to Downtown Disney to "hang out" like we would go to DTSA or other areas. Going to Disneyland is cool, going to hang out in Downtown Disney? uhhh yeah, not cool.

So what? Hung out in DD a few times to watch the dancers and see the bands play. Beats paying $100 every time to go into the park (I don't go to Dizzy often enough to warrant my getting a pass). I didn't notice the "coolness police" out writing tickets to us nerds and nerdettes crowding the concrete there.

[Urban Planner]

Originally Posted by mrsltd

So what? Hung out in DD a few times to watch the dancers and see the bands play. Beats paying $100 every time to go into the park (I don't go to Dizzy often enough to warrant my getting a pass). I didn't notice the "coolness police" out writing tickets to us nerds and nerdettes crowding the concrete there.

Whoa, just stating a perspective. If you think it's cool so be it, I just know that isn't a millennial destination. I don't remember the last time any of my friends wanted to go to Downtown Disney on a friday or saturday night.