02-07-2015, 03:14 PM
Location: Orange County
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I was under the impression you thought Anaheim was a dump and couldn't wait to leave. What happened big boy?
Right? All of a suddennnnn... he has a different opinion.
02-07-2015, 03:16 PM
Location: OC/LA
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Right? All of a suddennnnn... he has a different opinion.
I think he's got psych issues. Probably multiple personality or bipolar.
02-07-2015, 03:20 PM
Location: Orange County
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mbell75
Santa Ana just has some restaurants and bars in a faux downtown area. No comparison.
You're calling DTSA a
faux downtown? Are you kidding me? That's literally one of the oldest parts of the county with the most original buildings. You have no idea what you're talking about.
If anything is faux, it's the Platinum Triangle. You cannot be a "downtown" when you have 8 lanes roads separating your suburban 3 story apartments. Anaheim is a resort town, Santa Ana is for the locals.
02-07-2015, 03:42 PM
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The strange thing about Anaheim's development is the San Diego like patterns. It reminds me of a large Mission Valley (for those who are familiar with that area). The growth seems centered around the ball park, etc.
Not to mention a large convention center
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Anaheim tends be very development-centric whereas Santa Ana is more gentrification-centric. In the end, Anaheim will be much larger.
Anaheim has entitled a total of 19,000 housing units, 4.7 million sq. ft of commercial space and 14 million of office space (which is roughly half of what downtown LA total)
02-07-2015, 03:46 PM
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You're calling DTSA a faux downtown? Are you kidding me? That's literally one of the oldest parts of the county with the most original buildings. You have no idea what you're talking about.
I would agree with your reply. DTSA is hardly faux. It is very authentic and traditional.
02-07-2015, 04:17 PM
Location: O.C.
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Urban Planner
You're calling DTSA a faux downtown? Are you kidding me?
Yea, Im sorry but a few blocks of older 2-3 story buildings with some restaurants, bars and some shops is not a real downtown IMO. Especially when two of those "restaurants" are a Jack in the box and Burger King LOL. Let me know when Santa Ana gets stadiums, arenas, a world famous amusement park, a huge convention center hosting major national events and all the other things it lacks that Anaheim has had for decades and maybe we can talk. Downtown Santa Ana is more like a larger downtown Orange, not even close to what Anaheim has to offer in the Platinum Triangle area. Hell, there is arguably more variety of things to do at Downtown Disney alone then DTSA lol. Restaurants, shopping, House of Blues, all kinds of things to do with the kids, a movie theater...Now back on topic, this is about the ANAHEIM PLATINUM TRIANGLE
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02-07-2015, 04:47 PM
Location: Anaheim
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mbell75
Yea, Im sorry but a few blocks of older 2-3 story buildings with some restaurants, bars and a few shops is not a real downtown. Especially when two of those "restaurants" are a Jack in the box and Burger King LOL. Let me know when Santa Ana gets stadiums, arenas, a world famous amusement park, a huge convention center hosting major national events and all the other things it lacks that Anaheim has had for decades and maybe we can talk. Downtown Santa Ana is more comparable to downtown Orange, not even close to what Anaheim has to offer in the Platinum Triangle area. Now back on topic, this is about the ANAHEIM PLATINUM TRIANGLE. Take your Santa Ana talk to your Santa Ana thread
I think the thoughts of the other posters regarding Santa Ana's being a "downtown" have to do with LOCAL PEOPLE WALKING AROUND IN IT, as much or more than what is being offered. Lot of people on foot in this city doing their daily errands, whether they involve going into a one-story building or a ten-story building.
Don't forget that Santa Ana is also the county seat, with courthouse, federal building, and (beside the point) a community college.
There is no one "flavor" of a downtown. Anaheim had a "traditional" downtown at one time but Disneyland and the 5 freeway diminished that. It has been coming back along Anaheim Blvd near city hall and has never really left Lincoln west of there, just more genteel lately. (Yes, I lived downtown for nearly three years and WALKED it often).
But mbell's thoughts are more about the COUNTY having a downtown, whatever else is going on with Santa Ana or Anaheim as cities.
02-07-2015, 04:56 PM
Location: O.C.
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I think the thoughts of the other posters regarding Santa Ana's being a "downtown" have to do with LOCAL PEOPLE WALKING AROUND IN IT, as much or more than what is being offered.
Ok, thats understandable. However, that is not the definition of a "downtown". Downtown is just a term used to refer to a city's center. Nothing says a downtown must be walkable. The Platinum Triangle is most definitely Anaheim's city center, thus making it a downtown.
02-07-2015, 05:07 PM
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Ok, thats understandable. However, that is not the definition of a "downtown". Downtown is just a term used to refer to a city's center. Nothing says a downtown must be walkable. The Platinum Triangle is most definitely Anaheim's city center, thus making it a downtown.
Well, ok, but the title of this thread is "Platinum Triangle to make Anaheim 'OC's downtown'?"
So it seems that this discussion of "downtowns" is transcending cities now, and is up to the county/regional level.
I am not thinking that the Platinum Triangle is PHYSICALLY the "downtown of OC". For that you would have to go to the Irvine Spectrum, which is pretty much SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE of the county, and has quite a bit going on in terms of employment and entertainment. Why is the drive to and from Irvine such a pain on weekdays during "rush hour"? Lots and lots of people doing their daily routine.
I know when I have interviewed for jobs, I could never leave Irvine out of my calculations if I lived within commuting distance of it (which was always), because so many opportunites are there. This was not true 40 years go, when jobs were still very LA-centric.
Perhaps Platinum Triangle is ENTERTAINMENT/CORPORATELY SPONSORED/BRANDING DOWNTOWN of Orange County, given what you have shared above.
02-07-2015, 05:19 PM
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Well, ok, but the title of this thread is "Platinum Triangle to make Anaheim 'OC's downtown'?"
Good points. The article was talking about it being OC's downtown. I wonder if we will soon see a time where major cities like Anaheim, SA and Irvine all interconnect with some sort of train system. I know there has been talk of connecting the Platinum Triangle area with a monorail system but many citizens are against it for some reason.
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People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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