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Old 10-23-2016, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Now, 40 years after being built, the Laguna Hills Mall is undergoing a massive change into "Five Lagunas," complete with luxury apartments, etc.

Goodbye, Laguna Hills Mall; hello, urban village - Weekend

I wonder what eateries will be coming in and how many more giant apartment buildings will be built nearby.
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Old 10-23-2016, 03:46 PM
 
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Although i love buildings and density, South of Irvine is not the place for this kinda massive development. Leave the suburbs alone. This kinda project belongs in Anaheim/Santa Ana. Even Huntington Beach would freak out over this.
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Old 10-23-2016, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Although i love buildings and density, South of Irvine is not the place for this kinda massive development. Leave the suburbs alone. This kinda project belongs in Anaheim/Santa Ana. Even Huntington Beach would freak out over this.
Well, many agree with you but we are urbanizing here much more quickly than most realize and I am not sure everyone is ready for it.

Five Lagunas Breaks Ground at Former Mall | Urbanize LA
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Old 10-23-2016, 04:41 PM
 
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Now, 40 years after being built, the Laguna Hills Mall is undergoing a massive change into "Five Lagunas," complete with luxury apartments, etc.

Goodbye, Laguna Hills Mall; hello, urban village - Weekend

I wonder what eateries will be coming in and how many more giant apartment buildings will be built nearby.
Can you blame them? I mean the mall has been a ghost town for several years. No one goes there any more.

What should they do? Leave it runned down turned into a grafitti filled skate park? Or build something that people actually need? Like more places to live.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/laguna-hill...guna+hill+mall
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Old 10-23-2016, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Although i love buildings and density, South of Irvine is not the place for this kinda massive development. Leave the suburbs alone. This kinda project belongs in Anaheim/Santa Ana. Even Huntington Beach would freak out over this.
Why not? People in South OC don't go to malls? Lol Santa Ana Anaheim and HB are suburbs too. South of Irvine is absolutely the place for this type of development.
LHM is going to become like the old Huntington Beach mall became Terra Bella. It's the same scenario. Old mall with a lot of unused tenant space torn down to become a big outdoor mall. And it infused a crapload of tax money into HB. Yes you have a lot of people living and shopping there. That's a trade off.
What's your idea? Tear it down to make another park that does nothing for tax revenye
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Old 10-23-2016, 06:44 PM
 
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Drove by there yesterday and was surprised that only half of the mall was torn down.

@Electrician4You is 100% correct. This will be Bella Terra South. High density housing will integrate with the mall development. Great for LH tax coffers, but no street traffic upgrade will make this place a traffic nightmare.

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Old 10-24-2016, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Drove by there yesterday and was surprised that only half of the mall was torn down.

@Electrician4You is 100% correct. This will be Bella Terra South. High density housing will integrate with the mall development. Great for LH tax coffers, but no street traffic upgrade will make this place a traffic nightmare.
The one positive is South OC has wide main streets and was planned better tha Central OC
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Old 10-24-2016, 07:50 PM
 
Location: south Orange County, CA
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It's going to be a nice, quaint urban village with a freeway in it's backyard.
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Old 10-25-2016, 01:58 AM
 
Location: where the good looking people are
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If you can't build urban places near rail transit, the next best thing is next to a freeway. Commuters won't have far to go and won't clog surface streets.
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Old 10-25-2016, 06:58 AM
 
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If you can't build urban places near rail transit, the next best thing is next to a freeway. Commuters won't have far to go and won't clog surface streets.
You make a good point. In a related matter, I'll have to admit that since I see far more cars in my small city, I often process it as traffic being congested here, even though I can make it to any place in the city in 10 minutes or less.

Someone who lives on the outside, however, can bring another perspective. I recall the contrasting view of a reporter who lives elsewhere, but has made 100 visits to this city, and said traffic in this town is usually a breeze:

Whiting: Aliso Viejo, county's newest city, is ready for its facelift - The Orange County Register
"With streets that seem to wind back on themselves, driving may seem confusing. Still, the street layout makes sense and commuting is usually a breeze.

Aliso Viejo is only a few miles from the ocean and enjoys cool breezes in summer.

It is built on an east-facing slope and offers terrific views of the Saddleback Valley. It is adjacent to Aliso and Wood Canyons Wilderness Park, one of the largest and most topographically diverse parks in the county with almost 4,000 acres.

With streets that seem to wind back on themselves, driving may seem confusing. Still, the street layout makes sense and commuting is usually a breeze.

I’ve made well over 100 visits, and six-lane thoroughfares move traffic quickly even during rush hours.

As we stop for a traffic light, Doyle reports that the city has among the highest rated intersections in the county. "

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