Orange County Homeless Thread (Sacramento, Dana Point: school districts, club, pool)

[ysr_racer]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Your entire focus seems to be summed up by your little joke yesterday: “Let them eat cake.” Well, fine, you’re paying for the cake anyway now already ... and living with detritus that accompanies it. Whining about it and trying to pass the buck won’t take it off your streets.

Hey, Mr PHD emeritus. Let them eat cake refers to the crap that collects on the walls of ovens, not the thing your mom baked you on your birthday.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by ysr_racer

Hey, Mr PHD emeritus. Let them eat cake refers to the crap that collects on the walls of ovens, not the thing your mom baked you on your birthday.

What the hell does that have to do with what I wrote? You said “let them eat cake” ... I said fine, and you clean up the detritus that goes with ... you’re paying for all of it now, but don’t seem to realize it, I guess.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by ysr_racer

So you want "somebody" to do something to help them, just not you personally? I pay to have my trash hauled out of my sight, too.

I guess the only difference is, I'm not forcing somebody else to take care of something I care about.

Hey genius, you’re paying for them now already. All the emergency services, cleaning crews, law enforcement, jails, social services ... all your tax dollars. But now YOU suggest individuals should take them in to their homes. So YOU are the one wanting others to pay for the problems you have to live around.

Personally? I spent $40,000 on homeless this past year. I don’t usually spend that much, but I just did. Over many years I have supported several homeless veterans for periods of time while I assisted them in acquiring benefits. I have served as a crisis / suicide line counselor. I have shuttled vets out of their hovels in the woods to VA Hospitals and shouldered them through the halls and sat in their appointments and held their hands as they were dying.

So you can shove it with your arrogant call for me to do more.

[ysr_racer]

All that, and not one in your home? Typical

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by ysr_racer

All that, and not one in your home? Typical

I live on a 24’ boat. But, yes, I have put them up at the cabin I have, as well. But once again, you have no answers to topical questions in discussion:

Why is it, in your brilliant mind, a good plan for any individuals to take strangers into their homes to solve a massively complex socio-economic cultural crisis of huge proportion with causes not based on the individual actions of those you propose bear the burden?

[ysr_racer]

It's a good idea, so that you bleeding heart liberals have some skin in the game. So you see the people that you feel so sorry for.

You want to help them, fine go for it. Me, not one penny of my taxes should go to them.

It's a lot easier to say, we or they, than I. As evidenced by your replies in this thread. You're all talk.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by ysr_racer

It's a good idea, so that you bleeding heart liberals have some skin in the game. So you see the people that you feel so sorry for.

You want to help them, fine go for it. Me, not one penny of my taxes should go to them.

It's a lot easier to say, we or they, than I. As evidenced by your replies in this thread. You're all talk.

1. As evidenced by my replies I have a lot in the game.

2. A lot more than “a penny” of yours is already going to them and it’s going to get worse and you can’t stop it from taking more of your tax dollars.

3. It’s not particularly about feeling sorry for them. It’s about living with their presence, problems and expense around you. I don’t care how you ‘feel’ about the homeless.

4. If you don’t want to share the social cost, then you live with them around you.

Simple.

As to your flippant rationale that: “it’s a good idea” ... of course you are being hypocritical. Because you are sloughing off a problem of the society you live in and benefit from, on others to pay. This, in turn, means you expect other people to pay for solving a problem that affects you.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

If you don’t want to share the social cost, then you live with them around you.

Simple.

What do people not understand about this obvious fact?

[Finper]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

1. As evidenced by my replies I have a lot in the game.

2. A lot more than “a penny” of yours is already going to them and it’s going to get worse and you can’t stop it from taking more of your tax dollars.

3. It’s not particularly about feeling sorry for them. It’s about living with their presence, problems and expense around you. I don’t care how you ‘feel’ about the homeless.

4. If you don’t want to share the social cost, then you live with them around you.

Simple.

As to your flippant rationale that: “it’s a good idea” ... of course you are being hypocritical. Because you are sloughing off a problem of the society you live in and benefit from, on others to pay. This, in turn, means you expect other people to pay for solving a problem that affects you.

Social cost? Is that the new liberal term for more taxes? I'd feel a lot better if Sacramento wasn't stealing my social costs and not applying it to the homeless

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by Finper

Social cost? Is that the new liberal term for more taxes? I'd feel a lot better if Sacramento wasn't stealing my social costs and not applying it to the homeless

Finper - social cost is not a new phrase. It is exactly what it says. When homelessness presents itself on YOUR streets, society in total suffers all the things YOU complain about:
Inconvenience
Danger
Disruption
Loss of business
Loss of recreational venues
Expenses for emergency services, law enforcement, sanitation ...

... to name some of the obvious specifics. Those are all “costs”.

And if, as a member of our society, you don’t want to share the cost of correcting those “social costs” ... fine. Live with the consequences and bit*h and cry until you pass out.