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Old 05-25-2020, 06:10 PM
 
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Cases and deaths are starting to spike in OC. Opening up and people thinking things are "back to normal" is definitely going to have negative outcomes.

https://www.latimes.com/projects/cal...orange-county/

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Old 05-25-2020, 06:46 PM
 
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Cases and deaths are starting to spike in OC. Opening up and people thinking things are "back to normal" is definitely going to have negative outcomes.

https://www.latimes.com/projects/cal...orange-county/
That spike in deaths is directly related to outbreaks a couple of weeks ago in nursing homes. The OC Register reported that 75% of the past week's deaths were in skilled nursing facilities. Nothing whatever to do with "opening up."
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Old 05-25-2020, 07:00 PM
 
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That spike in deaths is directly related to outbreaks a couple of weeks ago in nursing homes. The OC Register reported that 75% of the past week's deaths were in skilled nursing facilities. Nothing whatever to do with "opening up."
Do you see the cases per day? There are two sets of graphs in that picture. Tell me which way the trendline is going if you were to best fit that curve.
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Old 05-25-2020, 07:10 PM
 
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Do you see the cases per day? There are two sets of graphs in that picture. Tell me which way the trendline is going if you were to best fit that curve.
You can see the trendline in the OC website: https://occovid19.ochealthinfo.com/coronavirus-in-oc . It's kind of bobbing up and down, yes, generally trending up but hardly shooting for the sky. And again--as nursing homes scramble to test every single resident and staff member (a federal mandate), there are going to be more cases showing up.

Did your data mention that cases in the ICU are at a two-week low and that total hospitalizations are also down from the peak?
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Old 05-25-2020, 07:36 PM
 
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You can see the trendline in the OC website: https://occovid19.ochealthinfo.com/coronavirus-in-oc . It's kind of bobbing up and down, yes, generally trending up but hardly shooting for the sky. And again--as nursing homes scramble to test every single resident and staff member (a federal mandate), there are going to be more cases showing up.

Did your data mention that cases in the ICU are at a two-week low and that total hospitalizations are also down from the peak?
See that's the pesky problem with facts.
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Old 05-25-2020, 08:06 PM
 
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See that's the pesky problem with facts.
Did you look at the hospitalization/ICU data on the Orange County website or are you talking about this unlabeled and out-of-date graph which may be from anywhere? As of today there are 198 hospitalized cases in OC including 69 in the ICU, which is not what your graph shows.

You can ramble about pesky facts but the truth is that nursing-home-related deaths are now up to 40% of the total in Orange County, a sharp rise since the beginning of the month.

In other words, I am not particularly worried about rampant increasing cases among the general population, since that is not the scenario we have here.
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Old 05-25-2020, 09:28 PM
 
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Not today, no outbreak, zero death.
https://occovid19.ochealthcare.com/coronavirus-in-oc
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Old 05-25-2020, 09:29 PM
 
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Did you look at the hospitalization/ICU data on the Orange County website or are you talking about this unlabeled and out-of-date graph which may be from anywhere? As of today there are 198 hospitalized cases in OC including 69 in the ICU, which is not what your graph shows.

You can ramble about pesky facts but the truth is that nursing-home-related deaths are now up to 40% of the total in Orange County, a sharp rise since the beginning of the month.

In other words, I am not particularly worried about rampant increasing cases among the general population, since that is not the scenario we have here.
It doesn’t matter anymore, the vulnerable people need to stay home, people can’t be locked up forever. Newsom was about to do that until he saw the budget short fall.
This is why today Newsom revealed guidance for churches to be reopened.
We may have to shut down again in the fall, but people need a breather, 2 months lockdown is enough.

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Old 05-25-2020, 09:42 PM
 
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It doesn’t matter anymore, the vulnerable people need to stay home, people can’t be locked up forever. Newsom was about to do that until he saw the budget short fall.
This is why today Newsom revealed guidance for churches to be reopened.
The state of California released new coronavirus health guidance for religious services on Monday, saying houses of worship must limit total attendance to 25% of a building’s capacity and stop passing around offering plates, in addition to taking other precautions.

The 13-page document, released by the California Department of Public Health and Cal/OSHA, does not obligate churches, mosques, temples and other houses of worship to resume in-person activity, officials said.

In fact, state health authorities strongly recommend that places of worship “continue to facilitate remote services and other related activities for those who are vulnerable to COVID19 including older adults and those with co-morbidities.”


https://www.latimes.com/california/s...virus-guidance
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Old 05-25-2020, 10:29 PM
 
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Did you look at the hospitalization/ICU data on the Orange County website or are you talking about this unlabeled and out-of-date graph which may be from anywhere? As of today there are 198 hospitalized cases in OC including 69 in the ICU, which is not what your graph shows.

You can ramble about pesky facts but the truth is that nursing-home-related deaths are now up to 40% of the total in Orange County, a sharp rise since the beginning of the month.

In other words, I am not particularly worried about rampant increasing cases among the general population, since that is not the scenario we have here.
Dude I mean if you're going to try and critique the data you should at least click on the link. We're done here. No point discussing this with someone who can't even be bothered to read.
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