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Old 05-01-2020, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar & Coronado, CA
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Gov. Gavin Newsom on Monday criticized Californians who defied the statewide stay-at-home order and flocked to beaches over the weekend, saying that ignoring restrictions could prolong the spread of the coronavirus in the state.
I freakin' love this. It is Newsom and his who have modeled for us, 'it is okay to disobey laws you don't like'.

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Column: Don’t endanger your friends and family. Patience, please, and stay off the beach:
Let me change the column a little, Column: Don’t endanger your friends and family. Help the federal government enforce our laws and deport criminal illegal aliens

Newsom is happy California is a "sanctuary state". The state prohibits local and state agencies from cooperating with the federal government in regards to illegal alien criminals who have committed misdemeanors. The state aids and abets fugitives from federal laws, but now expects us to respect HIS rules.

Rich.
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Old 05-01-2020, 05:40 PM
 
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I freakin' love this. It is Newsom and his who have modeled for us, 'it is okay to disobey laws you don't like'.


Let me change the column a little, Column: Don’t endanger your friends and family. Help the federal government enforce our laws and deport criminal illegal aliens

Newsom is happy California is a "sanctuary state". The state prohibits local and state agencies from cooperating with the federal government in regards to illegal alien criminals who have committed misdemeanors. The state aids and abets fugitives from federal laws, but now expects us to respect HIS rules.

Rich.
It's time for a taste of his own medicine, I think.
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Old 05-01-2020, 06:28 PM
 
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To be fair Mr. Newsom never explained on media what is acceptable behavior on beaches or elsewhere. He left the populace and local officials to do the guess work and interpretation of whats acceptable and whats not. Apparently San Diego and San Francisco sort of met his expectations but OC did not. But we really cannot read his mind and play mother may I all the time.
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Old 05-01-2020, 06:53 PM
 
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I freakin' love this. It is Newsom and his who have modeled for us, 'it is okay to disobey laws you don't like'.


Let me change the column a little, Column: Don’t endanger your friends and family. Help the federal government enforce our laws and deport criminal illegal aliens

Newsom is happy California is a "sanctuary state". The state prohibits local and state agencies from cooperating with the federal government in regards to illegal alien criminals who have committed misdemeanors. The state aids and abets fugitives from federal laws, but now expects us to respect HIS rules.

Rich.
Agreed. There is definitely some hypocrisy going on in here. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
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Old 05-01-2020, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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OC beaches will remain closed for now:

Judge denies effort to block governor’s order to close Orange County beaches
https://www.ocregister.com/2020/05/0...n-o-c-s-coast/


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A judge wouldn’t temporarily block on Friday, May 1, Gov. Gavin Newsom’s order for Orange County’s beaches to shut down, meaning sands along the 42 miles of coast will be off limits this weekend.

Coastal cities, as well as the Center for American Liberty, are challenging the order set out by Newsom on Thursday, April 30, raising questions about who holds ultimate authority to make decisions about coastal access, especially during a health crisis, and whether Newsom’s action against just a slice of the California coast was unfair.

Orange County Superior Court Judge Patrick Scott denied a request for a temporary restraining order brought by Huntington Beach and Dana Point and set a hearing for May 11.
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Old 05-03-2020, 01:52 AM
 
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I freakin' love this. It is Newsom and his who have modeled for us, 'it is okay to disobey laws you don't like'.


Let me change the column a little, Column: Don’t endanger your friends and family. Help the federal government enforce our laws and deport criminal illegal aliens

Newsom is happy California is a "sanctuary state". The state prohibits local and state agencies from cooperating with the federal government in regards to illegal alien criminals who have committed misdemeanors. The state aids and abets fugitives from federal laws, but now expects us to respect HIS rules.

Rich.
I be curious what happens if cities/counties refuse to act on Newsom’s words?
What happens if local officials refused to close beaches. Sheriffs and PDs refused to cite individuals? It appears unlike LA and S.D. counties I googled OC but could not find any examples of citations do to violations of COVID19 driven restrictions on everyday living either given by city police or county sheriffs. CHP could step in but CHP normally rely on County courts in which the arrest or citation occured.

Also Since the state may be guilty of doing the same thing to the federal government. It sounds hypocritical if Mr.Newsom wants local governments to act on his whelm and local government feel obligated to go against their principle to comply.

Its actually not so uncommon for cities to act contrary to the state both in CA and other parts of the US including in passing and enforcing some city ordinances that are contrary to state law. For example Some Florida cities are passing bans or illegal fees on certain products that are giving out as a gift with purchase. Interestingly when Newsom ordered the suspension of SB270 fees he didn’t order cities who passed an ordinance pre 2014 to follow suit too for some reason.

I know that Modoc County in the northeast is trying to circumnavigate Newsom’s closedown schedule by calling for certain businesses and city facilities to reopen early. Who would come to shut them down again?
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Old 05-06-2020, 08:55 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Letter to the editor, L.A. Times:

Don't blame Governor Newsom for closing beaches in Orange County. The fault lies squarely with the Orange County Board of Supervisors.

Had it put together a workable plan like Ventura County did, we could have been able to have access to the beach in an "active" fashion, with no coolers, umbrellas or tents, but walkers, swimmers, surfers and bikers out enjoying the beaches right now.

-Sam Roberts
San Juan Capistrano
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Old 05-06-2020, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Corona del Mar & Coronado, CA
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Letter to the editor, L.A. Times:
What else would you expect from an LA Times reader in very south South County
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Old 05-06-2020, 09:17 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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what else would you expect from an la times reader in very south south county
lol.
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Old 05-06-2020, 10:27 AM
 
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Letter to the editor, L.A. Times:

Don't blame Governor Newsom for closing beaches in Orange County. The fault lies squarely with the Orange County Board of Supervisors.

Had it put together a workable plan like Ventura County did, we could have been able to have access to the beach in an "active" fashion, with no coolers, umbrellas or tents, but walkers, swimmers, surfers and bikers out enjoying the beaches right now.

-Sam Roberts
San Juan Capistrano
So explain why it's OK to run, swim and surf but not to sit quietly on the sand with a cooler, when we're being told that those "active" sports cause people to spew virus particles out in a 12-foot radius.
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