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Old 08-05-2020, 12:55 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Jesus Tim. I hit you over the head with the obvious, and you STILL don't grasp it. Well, ok. Suit yourself, but don't lie to the OP, please.

Extra credit where credit is due: I like how you worked the word "plots" into LWV.

And, $500K isn't going to get her into a place that's decent. She might get a "fixer" for $700K tho. Maybe.

Tim, you sure are selling this facility. This begs the question, Tim. You gotta dog in this race, or what? Be truthful, now.
Have you actually BEEN to LWV???? I highly doubt it, and I don't know what your beef is with the community. I actually WAS there last year and I know exactly what you can get for your money. You don't need $500K and I don't know why you're lying about it, the OP can clearly go look on-line and see it's not true. And the people I saw out and about looked like active seniors, not like they were at death's door. Their Facebook group shows a lot of fun activities as well (pre-pandemic).

Now, back to the OP and Tim, I actually would have preferred the Leisure World location in Seal Beach (closer to my friends and L.A.) but they only allow one dog and I have two. Not a problem in LWV, and of course the topography and views are nicer in LWV.
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Old 08-05-2020, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Lifelong SoCalian
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Try answering with facts, not stupid political bashing.


Your replies would make you look better and maybe actually help someone.

"Stupid political bashing"?


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Great post, you mention a lot of things to consider. However, there are some issues of which you should be made aware. Primarily, money. bouleboule asks the question because neighborhoods, cities, and regions vary greatly in cost, for example: Aliso Viejo is master-planned, meaning they have taken great care to lay out the city in certain ways. A single family home there will run approx 1 Million dollars. Townhomes maybe half that to 3/4 that (500-750K). SD and Carpinteria are hundreds of miles and worlds apart.

Oceanside, Carlsbad, etc. are ocean-adjacent, but so are the costs. A smaller, slightly inland city like Vista may be more appealing to your purse. SD has an affordable (comparatively) town called Imperial Beach. However, one should know that it is on the Mexico border to the south, and the US Naval bases to the north. What this means is the ocean is awfully polluted there, hence part of the affordability factor.

As for safety, that will vary also. There is crime everywhere. Currently, coastal areas "enjoy" a lot of property crime due largely to the phenomenal amount of drug rehab and sober living homes importing abusers from across the country in order to run insurance fraud schemes more so than assist those with demons to confront. Less desirable (hence more affordable areas) will enjoy a crime rate that tends to skew averages higher rather than lower.

If you are looking for liberal areas, as you suggest you are such, then be prepared to sleep in the bed that liberalism has made. I think it's great that you are looking to move to California rather than polluting a conservative area with your political bent and society-destroying, feelings-based voting. Moving to California means that you will be paying outrageous fees for nearly everything in order to carry the costs of those services and offerings to those less fortunate (Hey, don't blame me, you voted for these people and policies). Welcome to the land that long-term Democratic supermajorities and decades-long control by four liberal families has created.

Your property tax will be approximately 1 to 1.25 percent of your purchase price. So in that Aliso Viejo million dollar house you will be paying between 10,000 and 12,500 per year, due every six months thankyouverymuch. That property tax is due to skyrocket as democrat politicians work industriously toward removing the ballot protections instituted in the 1970's by Proposition 13. That was passed, by the way, because of elderly people who bought their homes decades ago and paid them off, but the skyrocketing market value of them created assessments those retirees could no longer afford and they were losing their homes because of it. Those protections have been eroded and are set to be removed all together in the near future, thanks to the liberal voters and the politicians they have installed.

Do you want to go to the beach today? Expect to pay $10-$20 for the honor of parking there. Want to go to a park? Expect to pay to gain entry to many "public" parks.

You want to put gas in your car? Expect it to be 1-$2 more PER GALLON than you pay now. Why? Well because California has an AQMD. This semi-God like agency is in charge of improving air quality. California requires petroleum refineries to create and sell only a specially formulated gasoline in the state. Then you will pay for the over $.50/gallon in taxes to support our roadways/highways/infrastructure. The AQMD even tried to outlaw backyard bar-be-ques, and fast food places like Carl's Jr (Hardees to you) that grill burgers and create (gasp!) smoke.

How is that gasoline tax working out? Well, glad you asked. L.A. is full of potholes and rough seams (try taking the 5 through the SFV). When the Oroville dam nearly collapsed, the state did not have the funds to repair it properly because all those increases of gas taxes ACTUALLY went to social services for illegal aliens. You will soon find that every single little thing you do or buy has additional fees, taxes, etc. attached to them. Your $100 speeding ticket is actually over $500 due to added costs to manage the court system and other programs of criminal deterrence.

So welcome to California, the Golden Jewel that liberalism has destroyed. Since you and your brethren are complicit, I am sure you will be very happy here. Bienvenidos!

All told, with how you describe your interests and that for which you seek, then Laguna Beach sounds like exactly what you want. IF you can afford it. I just left there after 20 years.
It's strange, but I don't recall the OP asking for the Sean Hannity/Rush Limbaugh take on California politics? Do you?
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Old 08-05-2020, 03:01 PM
 
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"Stupid political bashing"?


Like this?




It's strange, but I don't recall the OP asking for the Sean Hannity/Rush Limbaugh take on California politics? Do you?
Both sides include political bashing and it makes both sides look stupid.



Discussing a need for a move unless the OP brought up a very specific question about the political leaning of an area, political attacks, etc., should be banned, just an answer to the leaning is what is needed.
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Old 08-05-2020, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar & Coronado, CA
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Jesus Tim. I hit you over the head with the obvious, and you STILL don't grasp it. Well, ok. Suit yourself, but don't lie to the OP, please. Extra credit where credit is due: I like how you worked the word "plots" into LWV. And, $500K isn't going to get her into a place that's decent. She might get a "fixer" for $700K tho. Maybe. Tim, you sure are selling this facility. This begs the question, Tim. You gotta dog in this race, or what? Be truthful, now.
I'm being honest. I can't figure out why you are not being honest? Are you trying to cover up your ignorance of the neighborhood? Embarrassed that you were shown to be wrong?

My parents live in Laguna Woods Village and have for going on 11 years now. My grandmother lived there. My aunt lived there and my father's cousin lives there. I know what an incredible 2 bedroom/a bath you can get for $300k-350k. You can get under $200k.

You can spend up to $1m for a 3 bedroom with a 2 car garage, but there is no need to.
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