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Old 07-24-2021, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Well let's not act like California doesn't use incentives. They use it a lot in the entertainment industry.

It actually has worked out well for them and they made the money back in two years - https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2018/...rk/1054150002/

See incentives can definitely work. For example the North Plano area in Dallas has been on a tear ever since Toyota moved their offices from Torrance over there. Now you have suppliers like Kubota that followed them there, plus a hoard of other businesses to serve the newcomers. It can work well, which is why California also uses them.
The tax incentive game played by states is appropriately referred to pejoratively as "smokestack chasing" as it is generally a race to the bottom. Not a wise long-term economic development strategy.

California has created a carefully considered incentive program for film/TV production in response to numerous states that have been giving away the store to attract production.
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Old 07-24-2021, 03:05 PM
 
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The tax incentive game played by states is appropriately referred to pejoratively as "smokestack chasing" as it is generally a race to the bottom. Not a wise long-term economic development strategy.

California has created a carefully considered incentive program for film/TV production in response to numerous states that have been giving away the store to attract production.
correct. the biggest scam is getting tax incentives for football stadiums.


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Originally Posted by DabOnEm View Post
Well let's not act like California doesn't use incentives. They use it a lot in the entertainment industry.


It actually has worked out well for them and they made the money back in two years - https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2018/...rk/1054150002/

See incentives can definitely work. For example the North Plano area in Dallas has been on a tear ever since Toyota moved their offices from Torrance over there. Now you have suppliers like Kubota that followed them there, plus a hoard of other businesses to serve the newcomers. It can work well, which is why California also uses them.
how did it work out for wisconsin and the foxconn facility?

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/21/foxc...-by-trump.html
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Old 07-26-2021, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Unplugged from the matrix
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how did it work out for wisconsin and the foxconn facility?

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/21/foxc...-by-trump.html
What are you saying? That it doesn't work out all the time because then I'd agree. But keep in mind Foxconn (ironically the name should have gave it away for Wisconsin) is still investing there with a new EV factory that's likely to be built.
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Old 07-26-2021, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Placentia, OC
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This just in!

Mickey and Minnie spotted packing some of their items inside Disneyland. Waltchan was right!
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Old 07-27-2021, 05:55 PM
 
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This just in!

Mickey and Minnie spotted packing some of their items inside Disneyland. Waltchan was right!
Pluto is staying.
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Old 07-28-2021, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Placentia, OC
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Pluto is staying.
Lol. I feel he still needs more clowning for this dumb post.
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Old 07-28-2021, 04:59 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Through all the back-and-forth of California losing well paying jobs (I think the average is over $100k for these jobs moving) and others thinking it's no big deal, what is getting lost is Disney is essentially creating a corporate neighborhood for its workers in Florida. Soon I bet these corporate neighborhoods won't even allow home ownership but instead discounted rents as corporations move to buy up available land in America, meanwhile people bicker on city-data (just an example) without putting themselves in position to do the same.
What jobs would those be? Disney's the company that made headlines by firing its US-born techies and hiring H1B workers to take their place, while requiring the fired techies to train the new, cheaper ones.

Are you sure Disney has any well-paying jobs left, besides the CEO's and other higher-ups? They've demonstrated, that they're not keen on paying well.
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Old 07-28-2021, 05:02 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Well, Disneyland resort in Anaheim, CA is transferring 2,000 jobs to Disney Word in Orlando, FL.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/new...?ocid=msedgntp

I don't trust this article at all. Due to very-high land costs in Disneyland Anaheim, they will be forced to close or relocate the amusement park.

Disney company also lean more Republican in politics these days, and the CEO doesn't have a positive opinion with California anymore.

Thoughts??? Will Disneyland in Anaheim close permanently and go out of business soon? Maybe by year 2040-2050?
Article says nothing about closing the Anaheim park. Not sure why you dragged that in here. Here's what the article said:
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the jobs are expected to be primarily involved in digital technology, product development and finance.
You're actually taking your own thread off-topic, by jumping into speculating about the Anaheim park closing, which has nothing to do with your thread title and link about moving jobs to Florida. If you want to speculate about Disneyland/Anaheim closing, start a separate thread about it.
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Old 07-28-2021, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Did you even BOTHER TO READ your own link?

Where in the article was Disneyland mentioned?

Spend some time on the DisneylandForward website and then tell me how crow tastes; always been curious.
not only are the jobs not coming from the Disneyland Resort, they aren't going to WDW! lolol!

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The new Florida facility will be located about 20 miles east of Walt Disney World resort, near the Orlando International Airport.
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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What jobs would those be? Disney's the company that made headlines by firing its US-born techies and hiring H1B workers to take their place, while requiring the fired techies to train the new, cheaper ones.
Per usual you have half the story right. Disney eliminated certain IT jobs in house and outsourced the functions to a third party IT company. The third party company hired the workers.

And you are the one who is all in favor of what Obama (and now Biden) has done with immigration, letting millions of illegals into the country, his DACA program, etc and screamed when President Trump wanted to end the H1B program.

But when a business hires the H1B workers or illegal workers, you criticize them
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