2008 Presidential election

[bhcompy]

Yes, because San Francisco is a bastion of goodness in the state. HA!

[cabolissa]

Originally Posted by bhcompy

could you explain way educated women wouldnt be thrilled with Palin? She has a degree at a respected university, she ventured into a male business world in sports journalism, she ventured into another male dominated profession in politics and worked her way to the top, etc etc. What turns educated women off of that?

"Wink, wink!!! Joe six-pack... You betcha... ramp it up..."
Need I go on??? Ok then...

Sarah Palin wasn't even a good mayor!
1) She was embroiled in many disputes in her first year.

She became embroiled in personnel challenges, a thwarted attempt to pack the City Council and a standoff with her local newspaper. Her first months were so contentious and polarizing that critics started talking recall.
-- from The Seattle Times

2) The sports complex she pushed through is tangled in expensive lawsuites.

What was to be Ms. Palin's legacy has turned into a financial mess that continues to plague Wasilla.
"It's too bad that the city of Wasilla didn't do their homework and secure the land before they began construction," said Kathy Wells, a longtime activist here. "She was not your ceremonial mayor; she was in charge of running the city. So it was her job to make sure things were done correctly."
-- from The Wall Street Journal While claiming to be a "reformer" Palin billed the state of Alaska $17,059 for "per diem" travel expenses for 312 nights she spent at her home in Wasilla. Here's the Washington Post article.. Not only that, she didn't report the money on her income tax according to NPR
Sarah Palin, who has made a crackdown on gift-giving to state officials a centerpiece of her ethics reform agenda, has accepted gifts valued at $25,367 from industry executives, municipalities and a cultural center whose board includes officials from some of the largest mining interests in the state, according to the Washington Post
Like Bush, Palin refuses to talk to the press. See Newsweek. A free and informed press is essential to a democracy, Governor Palin!!
According to Time Magazine, Alaska ranked 18th in federal taxes paid per resident ($5,434) but first in federal spending received per resident ($13,950). Its ratio of federal spending received to federal taxes paid ranks third among the 50 states, and in the absolute amount it receives from Washington over and above the amount it sends to Washington, Alaska ranks No. 1.
"When Gov. Sarah Palin flew home to Alaska for the first time since being named the Republican vice presidential nominee, she brought along at least half a dozen new advisers to conduct briefings, stage-manage her first television interview and help her prepare for a critical debate next month. And virtually every member of the team shared a common credential: years of service to President Bush". Read the story >.
The difference between George Bush and Sarah Palin? Lipstick. Palin's husband has defied a subpoena from the Alaska legislature in the Troopergate scandal, indicating the family's contempt for representative government. See The Boston Globe
Asked Wednesday to reassure voters about her readiness to handle foreign policy in the White House, Gov. Sarah Palin offered up a dare. "I’ll be ready. I have that confidence. I have that readiness and if you want specifics with specific policy or countries go ahead you can ask you can play stump the candidate if you want to". Even notoriously right-leaning FOX news called this "a dare Palin may come to regret"
Sarah Palin "doesn't have any foreign policy credentials", Republican Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska told the Omaha World-Herald. See the story.
John McCain has outlined running mate Sarah Palin's job description if they win the White House -- and energy tops the list, according to Reuters. Say goodbye to the Alaskan Wildlife Reserve, everybody!!
McCain campaign spokesman Ed O'Callaghan said that Palin is "unlikely to cooperate" with the [Troopergate] investigation...When the investigation was announced less than two months ago, Palin said she welcomed it and promised her full cooperation. See The Washington Post
Under Sarah Palin, Wasilla made rape victims pay for their own rape kits, according to former Alaskan governor, Tony Knowles. "Eight years ago, complaints about charging rape victims for medical exams in Wasilla prompted the Alaska Legislature to pass a bill -- signed into law by Knowles -- that banned the practice statewide."
Sarah Palin has stated that we should "perhaps" go to war with Russia in an
NBC interview with Charles Gibson.

GIBSON: And under the NATO treaty, wouldn't we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia?
PALIN: Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help. A day before she was announced as the Republican vice presidential candidate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin wrote a letter to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger urging him to veto a bill that would impose a clean-air fee on cargo containers moving through Oakland and other California ports. Reported in the Mercury News
According to a 2006 article in the Anchorage Daily News, Sarah Palin said she thinks creationism should be taught alongside evolution in the state's public classrooms.
An informal adviser who has counseled Gov. Sarah Palin on ethics issues urged her in July to apologize for her handling of the dismissal of the state's public safety commissioner and warned that the matter could snowball into a bigger scandal. Wall Street Journal.
Palin didn't listen. Palin was not a very good mayor, according to one Wasilla resident. "Far from being a fiscal conservative, Palin left Wasilla in debt, was intolerant of "divergent opinions" and "has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help." Read the story in the Anchorage Daily News.
She DID support the Bridge to Nowhere (before she opposed it). Palin claimed that she said "thanks, but no thanks" to the infamous Bridge to Nowhere. But in 2006, Palin supported the project repeatedly, saying that Alaska should take advantage of earmarks "while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist." According to the Associated Press (broken link), Palin sought $197 million in so-called "earmarks" for Alaska in 2009. In the previous budget year, she asked for earmarks worth $256 million.

Quote from a Fox News story: THE FACTS: Palin did abandon plans to build the nearly $400 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport. But she made her decision after the project had become an embarrassment to the state Palin has actively sought the support of the fringe Alaska Independence Party. Six months ago, Palin told members of the group, who advocate for a vote on secession from the union, to "keep up the good work" and "wished the party luck on what she called its 'inspiring convention'.
Here Palin is addressing the party >.
Palin favors drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
Palin questioned the science behind predictions of sea ice loss linked to global warming. Speaking about climate change, she said, "I'm not one though who would attribute it to being manmade."
In 2008, the state of Alaska under Palin's guidance sued Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne in an attempt to reverse his decision to list polar bears as a threatened species.
Palin opposed a state initiative that would have banned metal mines from discharging pollution into salmon streams.
Palin has close ties to Big Oil. Her inauguration was sponsored by BP.
Palin is extremely anti-choice. She doesn't even support abortion in the case of rape or incest. "I am as pro-life as any candidate can be," Palin wrote on July 1, 2002, to the Alaska Right to Life board, according to the Anchorage Daily News
Palin opposes comprehensive sex-ed in public schools. She's said she will only support abstinence-only approaches.
Palin supports the aerial shooting of wolves in Alaska -- despite ballot measures in the state in which voters twice since 1996 have voted to end the practice. (This according to the Wall Street Journal)
As mayor, Palin tried to ban books from the library. Palin asked the library how she might go about banning books because some had inappropriate language in them—shocking the librarian, Mary Ellen Baker. According to Time, "news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor."
After she took office as mayor in November 1996, Palin asked for letters of resignation from six department heads based on allegations that they were still supporting the former mayor. She also fired Police Chief Irl Stambaugh, who unsuccessfully sued her for wrongful termination, according to court records.
In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it "God's will."
Read the Associated Press story. (broken link)

[mark85]

Originally Posted by cabolissa

Nope not different now.

I'm still living behind "the Orange curtain". The only difference is, that the GOP is so royally screwed and fragmented these days, people are less vocal (except on this forum)! Governer has little GOP support, McCain wasn't the GOP first choice, and many educated women aren't exactly thrilled with Palin as a running mate.

I don't recommend moving to OC if you're a liberal, and want to share these views with your neighbors. I've only seen a handful of Obama stickers out there. And he's not even considered a liberal.

People are still driving their huge SUV's, not recycling, and the mega-churches abound.

Sorry to hear that things are the same. But thanks! you just made my housing search that much easier

[youngmoney]

Originally Posted by Alexus

OC and San Diego should be given up to Mexico. Maybe they can do some good for that country. They're worthless in this one.

Mexico? That makes no sense because us conservatives want country identity and the illegals out!

San Francisco and LA should be the ones joining Mexico.

[EricReingen]

I respect McCain but Palin is a complete disaster. I mean take a look at her interview with Katie Couric...

What do you read usually?

Ummmmmm she couldn't say one publication in the entire country.

How about the Washington Post...The New York Times...Newsweek...The Economist....maybe the Wasilla Moose Hunting Quarterly????????

Go Obama.

[pootie562]

This is only one little instance why the Obamas scare me,

"The truth is, most Americans don't want much. Folks don't want the whole pie. ... The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and revamped education system then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so someone else can have more."

Michelle Obama aka socialist