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Old 01-27-2014, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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There is actually quite a bit of inventory under $750K in Dana Point right now, historically the lowest inventory time of the year. So it isn't out of budget for us. If you think it is worth consideration, I will continue to look into it.
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Old 01-27-2014, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Dana Point
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There is actually quite a bit of inventory under $750K in Dana Point right now, historically the lowest inventory time of the year. So it isn't out of budget for us. If you think it is worth consideration, I will continue to look into it.
If you can find something in Dana Point within your budget that fits your criteria (1500 sqft min, # of bedrooms, size of yard, under $750,000), I'd say go for it. I just don't see many SFHs for sale in Dana Point (only 7 total that fit under your budget), and the ones I do see were built in the 60s and 70s or are short sales that have been listed for over year, or they are scraping the top of your budget. That same $750,000 would get you a more modern, bigger house, with a bigger yard if you looked more inland. You have to make the decision if that is worth it for you.
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Old 01-27-2014, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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ExeterMedia, this is where perspective comes into play. We have been living in a town in the East Bay with excellent schools for 2.5 years and I think there have been less than 12 homes that have come onto the market under $750K the entire time and half of them were complete tear downs while the other half had extensive foundation issues and needing at least $100K in improvements before you could even move in. So 7 SFhs on the market during a time of low inventory practically everywhere sounds like a lot to us.

Do you see a large amount of families with young children in Dana Point? How long does it take you to get to Whole Foods, Sprouts or Trader Joes? I can calculate it on google maps, but I find that locals can usually give a more accurate estimate. TIA!
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Old 01-27-2014, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Dana Point
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Well I shop at Trader Joes x2 a week. It's a short trip up Golden Lantern for me. Maybe 5 minutes? It's located in Laguna Niguel.

I don't shop at Sprouts or Whole Foods, the closest one may be in Aliso Viejo if I remember correctly. That being said, if you're looking for clean, organic, food, Dana Point has a pretty popular farmer's market pretty much weekly and I buy my produce, eggs, and other items from there occasionally. There's also a Gelson's pretty much walking distance from where I live which sells lots of high priced, organic stuff, but I rarely shop there.
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, WA
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If you can find a house within your budget with adequate size to accommodate the family in Dana Point and it's somewhat family friendly it may be worth a look.

As ExeterMedia described things as a local it does seem a bit high end in terms of overall housing costs. But maybe it works for some who really want to live nearer to the ocean and thus make sacrifices. I have to admit to love living near the coast in Monterey. Though we would never buy along the coast here as the prices are just too high for what one gets. That doesn't mean it's a bad investment per se, just not one we would consider for our family. I bet when the market dropped some families got into Dana Point who may have been watching and waiting... I was surprised by the numbers pacific2 pulled up which showed more younger kids under 18 than I would have thought.

The other consideration is proximity to the freeway for your husband's commute which most take into central OC.

Derek
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:02 PM
 
Location: LA/OC
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Again Derek, such good points being made and I thank you. We definitely want to be in an area with mostly families and as I said previously, politics are much less important. I really feel like I am narrowing it down with everyone's input which is why I love this forum. I started out thinking that Laguna Beach was the promised land in OC for us, but now I see that we need to be looking in the adjacent, inland suburbs. I am assuming we would want to be west of the 5 for better access to the coast and air quality, but that would rule out places like Mission Viejo, Las Flores, Ladera Ranch etc.., and perhaps we should keep those in mind. So now, my question is which of these Laguna Niguel, Laguna Hills, Aliso Viejo, Mission Viejo, Las Flores or Ladera Ranch is most politically moderate, comprised mostly of families, has excellent schools and good air quality? I should add that we are not looking for lots of land although it would be nice not to be able to hand our neighbor something through the window. We don't wish to have horses and we like being within 10 minutes of Whole Foods, Sprouts, Trader Joes and the like. Ideally, we would find a 4/2 house with around 2000 sq ft. That would allow us room to grow. We MUCH prefer ranch style single story homes (we love mid century modern) to the two story stucco, Spanish tile roof homes.

We're getting there! Thanks again for the input everyone.
Regarding air quality and the Greater Los Angeles area: Air pollution in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you can live with those statistics, the air quality difference between different cities in OC seems negligible: AQMD GIS Maps

As far as everything else is concerned, any of the cities you mentioned could likely work for you--with the exception of Las Flores, based on price. I've lived in both Aliso Viejo and Ladera Ranch and I don't think either are easy to place on the political spectrum. There are plenty of people with varying political, socio-economic and environmental views all around OC, so I don't think you'll necessarily feel out of place in any particular area.

For one story ranch homes, Mission Viejo and Laguna Niguel are probably your best bets, but you won't really find many mid-century modern homes there. The closest thing I could find was this 29642 PRESTON Drive, Laguna Niguel, CA 92677 - Listing #: OC14006089. It's a little smaller than what you're looking for, but there are plenty of 4/2, 2000sf+ options in your price range.
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Joe Van Fossen,

Not sure we can live with those statistics. It is very unsettling. This is why we are also considering Ventura county as the air quality is better, not by much, but still better.

Thank for you speaking to the types of housing we are looking for. We saw that home in Laguna Niguel too and it is exactly what we are looking for.
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:51 PM
 
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Hmm, with all the death metal/punk/heavy metal bands coming out of the OC how can it be so conservative?

In any case, I like Mendocino. And Willits.
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Old 01-27-2014, 02:53 PM
 
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Regarding air quality and the Greater Los Angeles area: Air pollution in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you can live with those statistics, the air quality difference between different cities in OC seems negligible: AQMD GIS Maps

As far as everything else is concerned, any of the cities you mentioned could likely work for you--with the exception of Las Flores, based on price. I've lived in both Aliso Viejo and Ladera Ranch and I don't think either are easy to place on the political spectrum. There are plenty of people with varying political, socio-economic and environmental views all around OC, so I don't think you'll necessarily feel out of place in any particular area.

For one story ranch homes, Mission Viejo and Laguna Niguel are probably your best bets, but you won't really find many mid-century modern homes there. The closest thing I could find was this 29642 PRESTON Drive, Laguna Niguel, CA 92677 - Listing #: OC14006089. It's a little smaller than what you're looking for, but there are plenty of 4/2, 2000sf+ options in your price range.
Joe, that was some good input regarding the homes and politics.

I will have to disagree with you in regards to pollution however. Actually those numbers you referenced are generalized across large regions. So in that sense they are ok. But they do not reflect at all the geographic and climactic diversity and associated smog variation within the greater in LA and OC regions. I can tell you with certainty that living along the coast for example will provide much cleaner air than living even 20 miles inland in Los Angeles. The reason for this is the predominant onshore flow of air coming off the ocean. Even within certain parts of inland LA & OC smog can tend to settle more and thus be worse. So proximity to the coast can really help in this way. Now if you are talking about living 1 block from the ocean vs. a few miles it may not be that noticeable. But California is the land of micro climates and so there is quite a bit of variance when it comes to things like smog.

Derek
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:54 PM
 
Location: LA/OC
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Joe Van Fossen,

Not sure we can live with those statistics. It is very unsettling. This is why we are also considering Ventura county as the air quality is better, not by much, but still better.

Thank for you speaking to the types of housing we are looking for. We saw that home in Laguna Niguel too and it is exactly what we are looking for.
Yeah, it's not a pleasant thought, but I've lived here all my life and I don't think I've suffered any meaningful, long term health effects. I frequently walk/jog outdoors and I live fairly inland.

I really like mid-century modern myself. There are some really cool homes that pop up in Orange, Tustin and Fullerton, every once in a while, that have that mixture of classic mid-century architecture and modern/updated interior.


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Hmm, with all the death metal/punk/heavy metal bands coming out of the OC how can it be so conservative?

In any case, I like Mendocino. And Willits.
In my experience, metal heads tend to lean more conservative (especially death metal). I've known some OC punks who are more libertarian than liberal. It's just like anything else though, it's hard to lump them all into one political classification.


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Joe, that was some good input regarding the homes and politics.

I will have to disagree with you in regards to pollution however. Actually those numbers you referenced are generalized across large regions. So in that sense they are ok. But they do not reflect at all the geographic and climactic diversity and associated smog variation within the greater in LA and OC regions. I can tell you with certainty that living along the coast for example will provide much cleaner air than living even 20 miles inland in Los Angeles. The reason for this is the predominant onshore flow of air coming off the ocean. Even within certain parts of inland LA & OC smog can tend to settle more and thus be worse. So proximity to the coast can really help in this way. Now if you are talking about living 1 block from the ocean vs. a few miles it may not be that noticeable. But California is the land of micro climates and so there is quite a bit of variance when it comes to things like smog.

Derek
I agree that the actual air quality is a bit more nuanced than the statistics on the wikipedia page. My observation was more based on the AQMD's air quality measurement of fine particulates, on a relatively ordinary day like today. There are definitely going to be some days where the air quality is going to be observably better by the coast.
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