10-08-2009, 11:58 AM
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Cheekiemamie if you go to Austin, check out Cedar Park. It has the best schools and is a beautiful neighborhood. I lived there and have also lived in Houston and Dallas, and now live in San Antonio (my favorite!!!). Texas is beautiful and cheap, and the people are amazing, BUT my daughters are both asthmatic and just can't handle the allergens (and my entire family lives in california).
10-08-2009, 12:35 PM
Location: Hollywood North
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Charles
There are large regions in Southern California with excellent schools: Conejo Valley, Orange County southest of the 55 freeway for example.
California School Performance Maps
California School Performance Maps
Traffic is bad if you A) commute during rush hour and B) work a long way from your home. You can beat 80% of traffic working a 6-230 schedule (which many southern California employers are willing to accommodate).
Illegals consume resources but they also work cheap and keep costs for some things low. It isn't completely one sided.
Sprawl, so what?
Can't comment on the CA government. Too complicated.
High cost on housing and gasoline. Everything else isn't much different. A lot of people expect housing costs to decline and what extra is spent on gasoline may be offset by the savings on home heating and air conditioning.
Great place for raising children. Outdoor activities year round, health conscious culture, high density of higher educational facilities, extracurricular science, math, engineering, robotics clubs. Maybe more secular.
Bilingual is irrelevant for most professions.
Finally, there is no substitute for the effect year round pleasant weather has on a person's psyche .
This^^^^ especially bolded
10-08-2009, 12:49 PM
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I forgot to add: awful air quality. My kids deserve to breathe clean air.
Despite the bad air quality, it has improved significantly in the last 10 years, and it is dramatically better than 20 or 30 years ago. It is very likely to continue to improve in the future.
I live in the Bay Area where the air is much cleaner, so I do see your point. Just saying that improving the air quality is one of the things California is actually doing right.
10-08-2009, 01:50 PM
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People that grew up in SoCal tend to view it with rose colored glasses on.
We all remember the orange groves and no traffic, along with high school kids working part-time jobs. But AKgirlinCA is right on.
10-08-2009, 06:52 PM
Location: Flower Mound, Texas
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You go girl!!!
Keep stating the facts and your own truthful experience.. I had the same experience and I really wish that someone would have shared with me back then. I went to California at the ripe young age of 24 and I was in for the shock of my life. I never owned a home there and just couldn't make it work. It never felt like home but always felt temporary. I am not saying I didn't enjoy certain aspects of it because I had my good times but the cons far outweigh the pros..
Would I do it all over again? Yes and the ONLY reason is because my two kids were born there... That is basically the only reason. When I moved away I actually felt like I was literally free.. It was a strange liberating feeling.
And I am sooo thankful that I didn't have to raise my two boys there.
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I forgot to add: awful air quality. My kids deserve to breathe clean air.
10-08-2009, 06:55 PM
Location: Flower Mound, Texas
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Because they have never been anywhere else to compare it to...
I cannot believe the size of house that one can actually buy outside of OC area and the difference in lifestyle. It is absolutely mind-boggling to me. Why on earth would anyone choose to move there in this economy?
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People that grew up in SoCal tend to view it with rose colored glasses on.
10-08-2009, 07:01 PM
Location: Flower Mound, Texas
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You will REALLY like moving away from the rat-race of OC. If your kids are into sports you will love Texas and your kids will have the very best opportunity to excel in them. Texas rocks at sports!!! I believe they are the number one state as far as the most drafts for just about any sport you can name.. You may have a tough time getting used to the heat and I would recommend a pool in your back yard. California weather is quite mild compared to Texas...but the values and lifestyle is great!!! Have a great trip and I am happy that you get to excape California...
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Born and raised in SoCal and I never got a pair of those rose-colored glasses. I don't think most of us natives are dillusional as to the "state" that California is in. My hubby and I want to take our 3 kids elsewhere for better schools, better values, and a new house that won't cost $900K and up like in the OC. We're actually planning on moving to Texas by next summer and in a month we're flying into Austin to check ou that area, as well as the Dallas area.
10-09-2009, 09:32 AM
Location: Long Beach, CA
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Would you stay if housing prices fell another 35%?
I would not because fundamentally the state of California seems to be in a steep decline.
To address home prices directly, I don't think they will fall another 35% unless the stock market really crashes and the economy implodes due to the dollar devaluating or defaulting entirely. When that happens, I would much rather be in Texas because life would be hard for us all!
Now I don't think that will happen and the areas that are still dropping are places that should have never reached astronomically high, like Norco, Corona, etc. The $1 million+ market has also dropped considerablly, but not lower than the $700-800K's. Coastal area will always hold their value and my neighborhhod is one of those area. We bottomed in prices (mostly due to foreclosures) last December and have already gained back $100k in value based on recent sales. We were thinking about South OC or Rossmoor/Seal Beach and houses in the $500-700k range are fixer uppers or tear downs. Decent houses are all mostly $800k+ for coastal OC with good schools. Could we affors it? Sure if I went back to work, but we would still be living pay check to pay check on $180k/year! So ultimately, cost of living is huge for us. We have 3 kids to put through life and college and we want to pump more into our 401k and IRA, rather than into a house. We'll be able to retire way sooner and travel all over, including the beautiful California.
10-09-2009, 09:44 AM
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you live paycheck to paycheck on 180k a year?? Wow.
10-09-2009, 09:46 AM
Location: Long Beach, CA
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Originally Posted by
Charles
There are large regions in Southern California with excellent schools: Conejo Valley, Orange County southest of the 55 freeway for example.
California School Performance Maps
California School Performance Maps
Traffic is bad if you A) commute during rush hour and B) work a long way from your home. You can beat 80% of traffic working a 6-230 schedule (which many southern California employers are willing to accommodate).
Illegals consume resources but they also work cheap and keep costs for some things low. It isn't completely one sided.
Sprawl, so what?
Can't comment on the CA government. Too complicated.
High cost on housing and gasoline. Everything else isn't much different. A lot of people expect housing costs to decline and what extra is spent on gasoline may be offset by the savings on home heating and air conditioning.
Great place for raising children. Outdoor activities year round, health conscious culture, high density of higher educational facilities, extracurricular science, math, engineering, robotics clubs. Maybe more secular.
Bilingual is irrelevant for most professions.
Finally, there is no substitute for the effect year round pleasant weather has on a person's psyche.
The school districts you mentioned in South OC, even North San Diego County has some top schools, but it seems to be pockets of schools. I'll give you an example, my daughter (a 5th grader) goes to a school within Long Beach Unified in one of the most affluent parts of Long Beach on the water. Across the street, they just finished building a $6 million home with a yacht docked out front. Her school is a "10" school, small and private-like and even with the infusion of money from PTA and parent contributions yearly, they still had to "cut" art, music, and their marine science program (which left my daughter devastated). The Jr. high she should be attending from 6-8 grade is bigger and more diverse socio-economically and introduces other elements into the mix, not only socially, but kids from poor performing schools and that were deprived of a proper education, holding up the performance of the whole class.
Collin County in Texas (where Plano, Allen, Frisco, etc.) is ranked #2 for its schools in the entire USA! I'm not saying that Texas will solve all the ills of the world, but for my young family of 3 it seems right for now. I would miss the weather here (we live so close, but never go to the beach), having 3 kids and a mortgage here prevents us from taking vacations too often, unless you count quick Vegas trips, so in my almost 29 years, I still haven't seen everything in the state. We will miss our family, but I have a feeling they will follow eventually.
The only good things about California for me are:
1. Weather
2. Culture (things to do/great food)
3. The Coast
5. Family
The good things (for me personally)about Texas:
1. Cost of Living is good
2. Schools are better than California's best
3. Better healthcare in Texas for my special needs child (top 5 children's hospital in the US in the DFW metro, not to mention Baylor)
4. Better economy & job market since so many different sectors are located in the DFW metro
5. The state isn't bankrupt and sending out IOU's
6. Not a "nanny state" telling you what you can't and cannot do, I swear California is really leaning towards Marxism, this coming from a former lefty liberal. Won't go further into the political debate.
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People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Keep stating the facts and your own truthful experience.. I had the same experience and I really wish that someone would have shared with me back then. I went to California at the ripe young age of 24 and I was in for the shock of my life. I never owned a home there and just couldn't make it work. It never felt like home but always felt temporary. I am not saying I didn't enjoy certain aspects of it because I had my good times but the cons far outweigh the pros..
And I am sooo thankful that I didn't have to raise my two boys there. 
I cannot believe the size of house that one can actually buy outside of OC area and the difference in lifestyle. It is absolutely mind-boggling to me. Why on earth would anyone choose to move there in this economy?
Now I don't think that will happen and the areas that are still dropping are places that should have never reached astronomically high, like Norco, Corona, etc. The $1 million+ market has also dropped considerablly, but not lower than the $700-800K's. Coastal area will always hold their value and my neighborhhod is one of those area. We bottomed in prices (mostly due to foreclosures) last December and have already gained back $100k in value based on recent sales. We were thinking about South OC or Rossmoor/Seal Beach and houses in the $500-700k range are fixer uppers or tear downs. Decent houses are all mostly $800k+ for coastal OC with good schools. Could we affors it? Sure if I went back to work, but we would still be living pay check to pay check on $180k/year! So ultimately, cost of living is huge for us. We have 3 kids to put through life and college and we want to pump more into our 401k and IRA, rather than into a house. We'll be able to retire way sooner and travel all over, including the beautiful California.
