Orange County Schools getting slammed from budget cuts (Vista, Lake Forest: school district, cost)

[bhcompy]

Originally Posted by Charles

How is Saddleback and Irvine USDs handling their financial situations? Why aren't they striking? Or, why is Capistrano striking and other districts are not? What is unique about Capistrano's situation? Any history there?

How's about an average teacher salary of ~$75000, before benefits(which are excellent)?

[Charles]

Originally Posted by missionhome

Saddleback Unified currently has to cut $33 million (just $1 million less than CUSD, but half the size in population).

This statement sticks out. Saddleback has to cut about as much as Capistrano and has about half (33K to 52K) as many students, and therefore receive about half as much state funding. That would seem as if Saddleback has a much larger percentage cut and would seem to have much greater impact - yet Capistrano is striking and in chaos.

[1958Native]

I don't know what to say, other than read this:

Impacts of Illegal Immigration: Education

"......Excluding the additional costs for subsidized school feeding programs, the average cost of educating children, including the children of illegal aliens, in the nation's public schools is about $7,524 per child per year. For a K-12 education, that is almost $100,000 per child"

I dunno....but somewhere a segment of the population that is taking more in services than they pay for.......

I could be wrong....it's just a hunch.

[missionhome]

Originally Posted by 1958Native

I dunno....but somewhere a segment of the population that is taking more in services than they pay for.......

I could be wrong....it's just a hunch.

In addition to illegal immigrants, most Californian citizens aren't making over $100,000 per year and they too end up taking much more than they contribute. Roughly 50% of the state's income comes from state personal income tax.

Residents making under $100,000 pay only 14.6% of the state's income tax. Residents making over $200,000 contribute 66% of personal income taxes to the state. So.... the vast majority of CA citizens take more than their fair share than they contribute, but that is the nature of a progressive income tax system. The more money you make... the more people you subsidize.

[RedJacket]

There's probably not a county in America where the school system isn't in a financial meltdown. Cuts everywhere -- except at the top. I have a friend who is a school superintendent in a small (17,000) city and he gets $145,000 per year and admits he's not worth it. Not to mention the other perks and benefits that amount to big taxpayer bux.

Closing schools. Consolidating schools. Laying off teachers. Shortening the school week. Just some things that are a being done. I say, cut some of the fat at the top. Whenever a new school is built, more than half the damn building is dedicated to space for school personnel. Some offices are bigger than the classrooms.

When a superindendent wants a new school and keeps pushing a referendum until its passed, you can bet its because it looks good on his/her resume, and s/he wants some new space for the personnel -- and a great big new office for him/herself.

What's left over, the students get.

[missionhome]

Also, the substitutes are being paid $250 per day. If they stayed for an entire school year, they would make $45,000. For two days of striking, the 600 substitutes have cost the district roughly $300,000. Each of the 56 campuses also has at least two security guards that have been contracted out.

[sailnd]

The solution is easy: Fire and rehire! Including management! Its not a question of not having enough tax dollars to spend, its where in the heck is all the money going?

[steel7]

The teachers should be damn grateful they even have a job unlike millions in ca & the nation who dont.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by sailnd

The solution is easy: Fire and rehire! Including management! Its not a question of not having enough tax dollars to spend, its where in the heck is all the money going?

That sounds easy. I wonder why it hasn't been tried?

Just like it's easy to win the lottery, just pick the right numbers. It's a slam dunk.

[steel7]

The teachers strike is over. The teachers got what they wanted. It looks like wimps run the school system & fear the teachers unions. What a bunch of losers & cowards.