02-13-2012, 03:28 PM
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Hello, I have been doing research for a bit now and reading alot of threads. I come to the conclusion that it it better to live and work in the same state rather than traveling. Like many say the stand still traffic from Portland to Vancouver is terrible. Being a New Yorker it may not ruffle my feathers much.
But I am tired of NY and suburbs, looking for a place to live that is beautiful, laid back (only at home work is work and you make money with a busier area)
, has rentals as well as homes with acreage when ready to take that plunge. I would love to one day have horses and possibly an animal rescue farm as well as some agricultural land. Just herbs and veggies. I would prefer if possible a small town that is in driving distance to a bigger city that has jobs. I am very Sales oriented so that will be important. Oh and I am considering opening a retail store so cheap rent and good traffic/tourist locations would be a good thing too.
I love the aspects of coastal Or and WA but I am open to going inland. One thing I'd like to stay away from is any possibility of hot lava rolling thru in the near future
Problem is, is that I am all over the place with the areas I like and would love to narrow it down. I love both sides of city life as well as country life. Any suggestions would be great. And keeping my animals with me is the most important thing. There's been a flood of people losing homeowners insurance cause they don't want to insure homes with larger dogs. Only 20 lbs and under
Such nice people they are..Sure there's a ton of homeless animals in NY shelters now. Well here's the areas I have been looking at:
Leavenwoth, WA
Portland, Or
Brookings, Or
Vancouver, Wa -Heard just beautiful!
Port Orford, Or
Port Orchard, Wa
Sammamish,Wa etc... See what I mean and that's not all of it, lol Ty any ideas would be wonderful!
02-13-2012, 03:48 PM
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Seems like you really need to narrow it down. If you want real laid back life in rural countryside, I recommend looking at Whidbey Island in Washington State. Small quaint costal towns. Oak Harbor is the hub of Whidbey Island, and they have modern shopping, but close by are the other small towns of Coupeville and Langley, further south. This island is connected by bridge at the north end, across beautiful Deception Pass, and connected to the south by ferry boat to quaint lighthouse town of Mukilteo. In the center of the island by lovely Coupeville is a ferry to the victorian town of Port Townsend. Whidbey Island is rural in many areas, but has so much natural beauty with views of the Puget Sound, Olympic Mountains and Cascade Mountains. From nearly any direction on the island, you get island views.
San Juans are even more laid back the Whidbey Island and is broken up by island names. Very few towns dot this large chain of islands that can only be reached by ferry. Might want to look up Friday Harbor, Roche Harbor, or Eastsound. These might be too remote though.
Try looking at Whatcom County in Washington for a very strong local vibe. They promote local farms here, and Bellingham is a cultural hub of music, video, and the arts. A very urban downtown, but with a small town feel. Easy access to boating, with the cities great marina and waterfront parks. Many lakes and rivers within minutes of the city, and close to Mount Baker skiing.
Check our Sammamish and Issaquah. Nearby to the commercial hubs of Bellevue and Seattle. Many job opportunities and becoming very popular for middle class and high class residents.
Vancouver, Washington and Clark County as a whole is a very nice area, with a good mix of urban, suburban, and rural areas. Look into the suburbs of Camas, Woodland, Ridgefield, and Battle Ground.
There are so many options I didn't mention, but maybe those five can be a nice little staring off point.
In Oregon, you got many communities to choose from as well. May I recommend looking into the coastal town of Astoria? It is a Victorian community with some shopping that can be done at a few chain stores across the bridge in Warrenton. It is near beaches and states parks in both Oregon and across the Columbia River in Washington. Many beaches and forests to explore. Historic downtown.
For a more suburban vibe, possibly look around the Portland metro, or into Vancouver, Washington. Out west you got Hillsboro and Beaverton. Beaverton is growing and has plans to become more urban downtown, and Hillsboro has a charming downtown and farmer market. They are both within driving distance to Portland. The eastern suburbs, such as Troutdale can be charming. A nice downtown, and on the verge of leaving the metro area. Just a bit further east, you can find yourself in rural countryside, and still be just ten minutes from the Portland metro area. Easy access to the freeway can make this ideal
OUT OF YOUR CHOICES
Leavenwoth, WA - Very quaint, small, but isolated with little job opportunities unless you want to work in farming or the tourist industry. Sort of nearby to shopping in Wenatchee. Beautiful surroundings.
Portland, Or - Very urban, medium sized city feel. Expensive, but lower job prospects then Seattle, high unemployment.
Brookings, Or - Remote, far from any larger cities with shopping, which you seem to want. Very mild all year round, with temps in the 60s even during winter. Great views. Close to rural California.
Vancouver, Wa - Close to Portland, and has a better economic forecast then Portland currently. Lots of big downtown plans for densifying, and many great suburbs to choose from. Right on the Columbia river, and lots of recreation opportunities.
Port Orford, Or - Remote. Nice location, but no job prospects, and too far away from any place with major shopping.
Port Orchard, Wa - Has some nice areas. Good waterfront, nice small downtown. Close to jobs and shopping in Bremerton, but I would not keep it on my list. Look at Gig Harbor if you had to choose a town in this region.
Sammamish,Wa - Residential, middle class,high class, close to Bellevue and good schools. Some shopping.
02-13-2012, 04:07 PM
Location: bend oregon
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gladstone and happy valley in the portland metro area
02-13-2012, 04:16 PM
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WOW! Thank you that helps tremendously! I do like Astoia but while doing research found really no land there. I have been trying to narrow it down by my job hunt. Seeing where the jobs are and then checking out the area. You are a wealth of information! I will check out Whatcom County as well. Trying to find a happy medium. I did read that Whidbey Island and those surrounding areas it's expensive and difficult at times for shipping for retailers. But like the small town feel. The land I would be interested in getting would be anywhere from 3-10 acres eventually and if able to do what I wanted with the land starting hopefully would not break the bank. Once I narrow it down a little more can I ask you about some areas again? I would appreciate it, Thank you
02-13-2012, 04:33 PM
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Thank you drum bro, I will check those out too!
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I would be happy to answer. For the money, you can find a lot of land in Whatcom and Skagit County, both in Washington. For the same money, you can find even more land and more house in Eastern Washington and parts of Eastern Oregon. Bend, Oregon is nice, but going to cost you more. The Tri-Cities in Washington are a very nice and inexpensive area. Lots of land, but it feels like one giant suburb, even though it is technically four towns, all with distinctive downtowns separate from each other.
You would probably get more help from the Washington forum. It is more active and more members using it.
02-13-2012, 05:12 PM
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One giant suburb? lol No thanks! Been there done that...Thank you will check in the Wa forum too. And going to check on Brookings area again.
02-13-2012, 05:31 PM
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Good luck. I will be around throughout the day at various times if you have further questions.
Just note that Brookings is a beautiful location with lots of natural beauty. But there are no chain stores in or around Brookings, and very limited job choices. Their downtown hugs Highway 101 and curves with the landscape. The nearest hospital is located 28 miles away at the county seat of Curry County, unless you travel 25 miles south to Crescent City, CA. Brookings has a municipal police department, and fire department.
The town is isolated from major highways and far away from towns with 20,000 people or more. The nearest city with 100,000 people is over 150 miles away. Road networks to Brookings are extremely limited, with only 101 going in and out of the town. For example, the nearest Wal mart or chain store store like it, is located Coos Bay or Medford, both extremely far away from Brookings, and would take a winding road route to get too.
Harris Beach State Park is a nice park at the north end of town. The weather in the city is very mild, with warm temperatures (Relatively) all year round. Though there are times winds can hit the unprotected community harshly. There are some Pacific storms.
02-13-2012, 10:40 PM
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WOW! Thank you that helps tremendously! I do like Astoia but while doing research found really no land there. I have been trying to narrow it down by my job hunt. Seeing where the jobs are and then checking out the area. You are a wealth of information! I will check out Whatcom County as well. Trying to find a happy medium. I did read that Whidbey Island and those surrounding areas it's expensive and difficult at times for shipping for retailers. But like the small town feel. The land I would be interested in getting would be anywhere from 3-10 acres eventually and if able to do what I wanted with the land starting hopefully would not break the bank. Once I narrow it down a little more can I ask you about some areas again? I would appreciate it, Thank you
I love life in Astoria. Most of the properties in town don't have much land with them, but if you look just south of town around Young's River or Mile's Crossing there are some small farms. Also out Lewis and Clark. If you have any specific questions about Astoria, ask away.
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... I did read that Whidbey Island and those surrounding areas it's expensive and difficult at times for shipping for retailers. But like the small town feel...
Just to add my 2 cents here, Whidbey
is very beautiful, but you will not be raking in the bucks selling retail there. Burlington is the closest place to Whidbey that you could set up a decent shop at about 45 minutes across the bridge. There are a lot of rural areas between Whidbey and burlington in Skagit county, but still it wouldn't be my top choice. Whatcom is a better bet IMHO, good luck!
(Lived in Oak Harbor for 2 years)
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Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)