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Old 11-18-2006, 12:48 AM
 
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My partner and I are moving to Coos Bay in November from San Diego. We're not expecting to find a gay social scene, and we're not really looking for one. But I am curious as to whether we're likely to encounter much anti-gay hostility. We're basically getting out of the rat-race and looking forward to life at a slower and more uncrowded pace. We've purchased a beautiful home and don't have any illusions about the weather, etc., since I've been to Coos Bay a number of times in all seasons. But I haven't spent enough time there to really get a handle on whether we'll encounter prejudice against us as a gay couple. Any thoughts?
My partner and I just moved here from CA too. We met a few gay people here already.

Everyone seems friendly so far. You'll want to avoid this christian coffee house in downtown Coos Bay. I'd mention the name of the place but it's probably not allowed on this website so sorry I can't be more specific. I just got back from that coffee house. I was like a church sermon in there. There was a christian band playing. The audience was standing up, singing with the hands in the air, swaying back n' forth. It was so bizarre and creepy. I've never seen anything like it. Guess I'm not in the city anymore?

I sent you a pvt message with our email. Please contact us. It would be great to have friends from SoCal that live here.

Last edited by sghrush; 11-18-2006 at 01:01 AM.. Reason: Adding more info

 
Old 11-18-2006, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Doe's the christian community cause you to think of your choices? or are you just predjudice against them? For a so called persecuted group (Gays), I would think that tolerance on your part for others beliefs would be automatic. I'm sure that the coffee house exspressions were acceptable to society, unlike ... well you know.
 
Old 11-18-2006, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara
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sghrush,

I have several gay friends and I am Christian. I 'tolerate' many things that are against my value system all the time without saying a word or letting it interfere with my kind, loving, enjoyable friendship of them. You are entitled to your opinion obviously, but on a blog we all have our say so I will share my experience.

First I think it is important to realize this is America and we all have freedom to exercise our religion. I think you are right in not patronizing a business that you do not like. There are plenty of 'gay friendly' places in this world and I am happy for you that you are keeping your eye out for them. But if you are creeped out by others' worship ceremonies or way of bonding--simple enough don't go there.

Many people tolerate gay men and women pushing their beliefs and values all over without saying a word. Clearly you are not appreciating the converse of what you have written or maybe even knowledgeable of the amount of people who tolerate you.

Just because people don't say something negative to one's face or comment on what another is doing, does not mean they agree or even like one's behavior. This is true across the board with tolerance no matter what it is exercised towards.

By the way I have known and still know people who are gay and attend Catholic service and also other Christian churches as they are Christian. So being gay does not always excluded a joyous community with other Christians. When you meet a gay man or woman who believes in Christ and tries to live in honor of this as best they can, how will you treat them? They may hide their belief system from their gay peers, because they may not be tolerated there either.

I am sure you would not be pleased with gay bashing just as I am not pleased with Christian bashing. Yet one thing all Christians know is that Christ was persecuted for his beliefs, thus persecution for the honoring of God is not a destabilizer for us that makes us act evilly back toward others (of course there is anguish at times and anger, but to come back to the cross for us when we suffer is an ideal-especially for being persecuted for our beliefs). Persecution for God is a gift that is a sorrow, but it only increases our love for our God. What a beautiful gift it is to be Christian. May you find gifts in your new journey and in your new community.
 
Old 11-18-2006, 11:24 PM
 
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Please remember, too, that being a liberal democrat does not automatically make a person progressive or open-minded. It appears that people of faith are automatically downgraded because they refuse to compromise their beliefs. If a liberal doesn't compromise his/her beliefs, he's progressive and open-minded. If a conservative Christian doesn't, he's narrow-minded and hateful. Someone tell me the difference here.

As with anything, it's going to depend on your attitude and intelligence level. If you're God's gift to truth and understanding on either end of the political spectrum, you're going to be frustrated wherever you go unless you move someplace where people practice groupthink. If you're more tolerant, than you'll have a place in your life and your mind even for conservatives.
 
Old 11-19-2006, 04:51 PM
 
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It has been my experiance thoughout my life time that open minded and accepting people are generaly not conservative. Liberal has been turned into a dirty word by the political right and is not interpeted for what it really means. To be liberal is to be accepting, to be generous, to allow for other beliefs, to be open to change and new possibilities, and to be open minded to new ideas and different opinions and attitudes. The majority of people in Coos Bay are not this way. I rarely express my opinions around here because most of the time when I do, people immediately judge me harshly for them. I have found that consevatives are much more judgemental and self righteous about their beliefs and do not respect other points of veiw. I'd rather not live in a place like that and that is why I moved from Salt Lake City. I would like to be able to express myself without the likelyhood of offending someones sensabilities. Also, I have found that consevatives are much more likely to be easily offended by differing opinions (I'm sure I'll be offending someone with this post, but if you find this offensive, then I've proven my point). I don't want to offend people and often bite my tongue to keep from doing so. I don't find that same consideration coming from most consevatives. In fact, many conservatives have such little respect for differing points of veiw, they are purposely offensive. People like Rush Limbaugh and most of the commentators on the fox network are intentionally and blatently offensive and rude towards differing points of veiw. I have found that "liberal" people tend to be much more respectful, polite and accepting and I believe those are good qualities that I prefer to associate with and live amoung.
 
Old 11-19-2006, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Timasino,
Right.....Like remove historical items from public buildings because they are religious in nature? That's pretty open minded & accepting of others, or maybe San Francisco campuses banning military recruiters? The same military that insures our freedoms with their lives. Or open minded like taking a parents rights away from being notified when their daughters are having a life altering medical procedure or teaching their precious little ones that gay sex is normal? That marriage can be between any one in love. Bob and the German shepard? that is pretty open minded of me.
Maybe we should show little ones how to do all kinds of other horrible things?
Then- when they get into a court one day, an open minded judge will give them probation for their rape and abuse of a 6 yr. old girl over a 4 year period, her young little open minded education, because the judge doesn't think jail can reform him, and punishment isn't our job. Because we are open minded and accepting.

I could go on and on about the future of an open minded society that has no moral compass, but that would mean my close minded ness would have to regurgitate the continued garbage that this open minded society has been pushing.


freedom
 
Old 11-19-2006, 09:50 PM
 
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Freedom,
Thank you for clarifying and demonstrating my point.
 
Old 11-20-2006, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Timasino,

You are most welcome.
 
Old 11-21-2006, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Eugene Oregon
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LoL Timasina, Freedom continually proves your point over and over. You forgot to mention Ann Coulter with Rush Limbaugh though. I think she deserves the honorable mention.

Kudos to you for speaking your mind and being so articulate and thoughtful. Freedom could take a lesson from you as could I.
 
Old 11-21-2006, 07:45 PM
 
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Well put Timasino, I feel the same way...mostly keep my political thoughts to myself, for those reasons you stated... Thanks
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