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Old 12-20-2012, 06:19 PM
 
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What you are seeing is one person's "reasonable," is another person's "trying to get around the rules."

I fully intend to comply with what I have to, this is why I am seeking a locale where there are as few things requiring compliance as possible.

If I intended to skirt the law I'd drop a trailer on it or buy something substandard shell and build the most amazing "root cellar" you have ever seen.

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Old 12-20-2012, 09:48 PM
 
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You must really love that song - you've posted it twice.

You posed your question on a public internet forum. That comes with the assumption you'll receive a variety of opinions. Just because you're receiving some feedback with which you disagree, you're tossing out insults. If you don't want opinions that differ from your own, perhaps internet forums are not for you.

Perhaps the regulars on the Oregon relocation forum aren't preppers, etc. so can't relate to your concerns and interests. There may be other forums that are devoted to that point of view that may be divided into geographical regions. That may be a worthwhile strategy to get the specifics you're looking for. Either way, the insults are inappropriate.

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Old 12-21-2012, 01:49 AM
 
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Placement and occupancy of recreational vehicle
(1) A state agency or local government may not prohibit the placement or occupancy of a recreational vehicle, or impose any limit on the length of occupancy of a recreational vehicle, solely on the grounds that the occupancy is in a recreational vehicle
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After a few more hours of research and inspirations from comments in this thread the easiest route is defiantly just park a cheap dilapidated trailer on the most secluded parcel I can and make ample use of the lenient restrictions on agricultural buildings.

Worst case scenario I can just Earth berm a Quonset hut as a storage hangar and build my house on a trailer with in it.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:21 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Give CEB a thought or two. I may lease my machine when I am through. It is a 2001 series.

Compressed Earth Block Machines - Advanced Earthen Construction Technologies
Neat idea and machine! Wish I could talk my other half into a project like this.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:16 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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197.493¹

After a few more hours of research and inspirations from comments in this thread the easiest route is defiantly just park a cheap dilapidated trailer on the most secluded parcel I can and make ample use of the lenient restrictions on agricultural buildings.

Worst case scenario I can just Earth berm a Quonset hut as a storage hangar and build my house on a trailer with in it.
And yet you seem to be mystified as to why anyone would be nervous about having you move next door.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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Neat idea and machine! Wish I could talk my other half into a project like this.
We wanted to know how many blocks we needed so we made 4,000 salt and flour scale blocks with adobe color and built every detail in a 2 foot by 18 inch model. The machine is portable. Several local (Sunsites) buildings are made from CEB including the Library and Medical Clinic, The method can be used in any state. The soil composition is important.

There is a HAND Machine that is in the public domain and just requires labor and dirt. The designer has built entire villages with it, "One Block at a Time".
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:43 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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We wanted to know how many blocks we needed so we made 4,000 salt and flour scale blocks with adobe color and built every detail in a 2 foot by 18 inch model. The machine is portable. Several local (Sunsites) buildings are made from CEB including the Library and Medical Clinic, The method can be used in any state. The soil composition is important.

There is a HAND Machine that is in the public domain and just requires labor and dirt. The designer has built entire villages with it, "One Block at a Time".
Sunsites? Hmmm, gotta look up where that is and maybe take the wife and puppy for a little drive and show here what "could" be!
Ok, just checked. Not so little a drive (3hrs 30 min) so maybe a weekend.
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:29 PM
 
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And yet you seem to be mystified as to why anyone would be nervous about having you move next door.
The point of moving to a point of rural seclusion behind 20 aces and a dirt road is there is no next door. What you should find mystifying is why such a course of action is the path of least resistance, I know I do.




Now which process respects my time, money and intrudes on my life the least?
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:59 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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That isn't much of an example of anything except hyperbole. Temporary, pre-built structure versus permanent dwelling.
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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20 acres is a pretty small lot in a rural area. You may have trouble getting a building permit on a parcel that small. Minimum size for a building permit in my neighborhood is 160 acres, though 80 acre parcels are possible with a little work. You will find your neighbors less than welcoming as you try to build something that is little more than an unlicensed landfill.

If you get engineered plans, there is no possibility of the structural design being rejected, though that root cellar in the picture obviously is not fit for human habitation. For that matter, neither is the travel trailer for several days a year, as everything freezes up. If you build you have to meet basic fire and life safety codes, including seismic and sanitary codes. You may think you are just going to use a composting toilet, but that doesn't mean you don't need a kitchen sink with a washable surface, a separate bathroom sink, and shower minimum for personal hygiene. You can use a gray water system for the shower and laundry, but you have to have a septic system for food scraps, and it's going to be sized according to the number of bedrooms, so you don't gain anything by shoveling your personal manure.

You would do better to go to a state with no building codes or land use planning, like South Dakota.

If you want to know how to do things right, quit thinking up ways to do things wrong and follow the example of someone with style and intelligence.

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