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Old 05-17-2013, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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I have lived in the Rogue Valley for years, but would like to learn more about Flagstaff, AZ. I have seen a good number of opportunities in my field in that area.

Anyone been or lived in both places? How do schools, outdoor activities, jobs,etc. compare?
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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Yes. No comparison

The altitude alone is a major change at 7,000 feet. Also much much more snow. Different trees, weather, soil, water availability, lifestyle, etc..
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:29 AM
 
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Flagstaff has water issues, if that matters to you. Crazy traffic. CRAZY. Also note, that to leave Flagstaff, you have to drive a long ways anywhere and that drive is mostly through high desert (and a lot of that is overgrazed high desert).

But its a pretty cool town. Seems to have a lot going on whenever I go through and has some good restaurants.
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Old 05-19-2013, 03:56 PM
 
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I spent four years in Flagstaff during the 1980's and currently live in the Rogue Valley. Crazyme is correct about the water issues in Flagstaff. There's normally quite a bit of snow on the San Francisco Peaks, but water flows downhill and Flag is at 7000 ft. on a plateau composed largely of volcanic cinder. Some years Flagstaff has a huge amount of snow, some years hardly any. It's definitely a college town...and one with a lot of skiers. NAU is quite good as an undergraduate school and has some good graduate programs in some departments.
The vibe isn't as artistic or intellectual as Ashland, but it's good by by Southwest standards. Flag has gotten a lot more expensive in the past couple of decades. The city is completely bounded by NFS land, so the City Council has to petition Congress for land grants whenever it wants to expand its city limits. Its beautiful country. You won't see bluer skies anywhere on earth. The ability to be in Phoenix after a two-hour drive is a nice feature in the middle of winter. Not a very good gardening climate, though. The growing season is unbelievably short -- under 100 days.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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Don't move there with breathing issues.
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Old 05-20-2013, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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I love Southern Oregon, but Flagstaff seems pretty good too. I would miss the poison oak though....

Thanks for the posts, and keep 'em coming!
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:32 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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Looked at Flagstaff, Prescott and Payson in Arizona. The biggest downside for all of them is that Phoenix is the closest large metro and I hate Phoenix - the sprawl, the heat, the humid hot monsoon. Payson was a little too small, Prescott was overpriced and had some serious water issues, and Flagstaff seemed kinda strip-mall-y. Like Crater Lake Drive in Medford or Bend before the bypass. Flag does have a nice downtown. Every time I've been there (including twice in winter) it was WINDY.
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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I have seen the wind blow on I-40 from Flag to Winslow so hard my Volkswagon Vanigan couldn't make 30 mph.
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Old 05-21-2013, 01:19 PM
 
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Flagstaff sort of seems busier than the Rogue Valley--at least when I've been there. It's sort of like Ashland--though it feels the size of Medford--but it's got a bigger college town vibe(NAU is a lot bigger school than SOU, where I went to undergrad). It gets more tourists as well with it's proximity to the Grand Canyon--and Sedona is just down the road--as well as being a weekend mountains spot from Phoenix. Ashland and the Rogue area get a fair number of summer tourists--though the Shakespeare Fest crowds can't compare to what you get going through Flagstaff in the summer.

Downtown Flagstaff is nice--it's friendly and has some good spots--definitely a college town vibe in some ways though. The rest of the town feels fairly average(sort of like parts of Medford)--but it's got what one would need as far as basic services and shopping. The potential for daytrips from Flagstaff is pretty cool considering you have Mt. Humphreys and the high desert of the Colorado plateau to the north(and the Grand Canyon and Navajo country a little further) and then you can drop down into the warmer and lusher areas like Sedona and Jerome to the south. Sedona and Oak Creek are fairly touristy, but they're beautiful red rock country for hiking, pretty much year round.

Flagstaff is anything sort of reminds me of a place in Colorado--or maybe Bend--Ashland and the Rogue Valley feels a little more quirky (and isolated, albeit in a good way)...
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Old 05-21-2013, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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With two major Interstates merging, it gets very busy. The town is a constant flow of traffic for food and fuel.
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