Oregon's Schools Being Hijacked! (public school, live, educational)

[tonysam]

This is all Bill Gates' idea, and proof he is one evil s.o.b.

[Steve Pickering]

If it wasn't for Bill, the odds are you would not be posting your comment here.

[Priscilla Martin]

Latest on Common Core Oregon Implementation Costs

Fordham's Study of Estimated Gross and Transitional Costs were broken down for each state. They look at this from three approaches Business As Usual, Bare Bones, and Balanced. These costs are in addition to current costs. These are implementation costs only, not maintenance. These cost looked at three drivers:assessments, instructional materials, and professional development.

Bare Bones (the least expensive) It assumes annual computer-administered assessments, though the cost is the same as for traditional paper tests. Professional development costs drop, however, due to the exclusive use of online modules, and so do the costs of instructional materials. Oregon's bare bones cost=$38,800,000

Balanced Implementation (the mixed path) It takes advantage of CCSS features with potential to improve achievement while saving costs, though it does not always use the lowest cost alternative. It includes the cost of a final summative assessment and three interim tests per student, all computer administered.45 Instructional materials can be developed or selected by state or district and distributed in online modules, allowing for some central control, while taking advantage of the lower cost of digital
technology. This approach uses a hybrid professional development model, where 10 percent of teachers receive in-person training as facilitators and instruct the remaining 90 percent, as well as help them leverage accompanying online modules. Oregon's balanced implementation cost=$66,700,000

Business as Usual (the traditional path) This scenario utilizes new hard-copy textbooks, annual paper summative tests, and in-person professional development sessions for all teachers (eighty hours)
Oregon's business as usual cost=$151,800,000

Not sure as to where the money will come from;the general fund, local districts, or a combination.

[rdickers]

H'mmmm, Bill Gates and very expensive technology updates. I wonder if there is a connection?

[rdickers]

You would not know what you are talking about ........... Leave the teaching and comments about it to the professionals who do it for a living.

Has it not been the professionals and "experts" who've gotten education in Oregon to where it is today? Did I not just read a couple days ago that the state test results have slipped again, and the problem seems to be related to a lack of money to finance test do-overs, and a shortened school year. The reason: The educators have built for themselves a retirement nestegg that consumes more than one-third of local school budgets and growing.

[rdickers]

Originally Posted by hamellr

Have you seen the actual curriculum? How is political propaganda? Please post experts as examples with links to the original.

Has anyone seen the curriculum? The entire education hierachy is run like a Mafia operation. Compliance is extorted by those who have nothing to do with the well being or education of the children, only power for themselves.

Common core is just another in a long string of fads starting back in the Carter administration. Including the CIM and CAM, is this not about the 6th fad since Jimmy Carter, none of which has resulted in measurable improvements in outcomes. Who can quote anything accurately from what has been a moving platform ever since local control was subverted.

CC, it is said, is just a series of standards and goals, not a curriculum. The states will use their own curricula, it is said. The tests, now called assessments, however, will be prepared at the National level and used to measure outcomes, as well as the performance of school districts and educators. Assessments, as best I can determine will be graded subjectively, which means students' beliefs will be graded by mostly off-duty or retired educators, I presume. Those not conforming to desired beliefs most probably will receive lower grades than those conforming to the common core standards.

[Silverfall]

Originally Posted by rdickers

Has anyone seen the curriculum?

There is no curriculum. The common core is just a set of standards that they want all kids to have at that grade level. If you look at the nextgen science standards, which are still being hashed out as part of the common core, they want kids to understand certain concepts by a certain age. The number in front of the standard is the grade they want the kids to understand those concepts by. Schools can pick their own materials and teach it anyway they choose. So the core doesn't set the curriculum, just the standards to reach.

Priscilla,

As for that parent being manhandled. He needed to ask his question. There were a lot of people there, who likely had questions they wanted to ask too. Spewing isn't asking. He was disrespecting the other parents that were there who had questions too. If I was sitting there, I would have been totally okay with him being removed. The point of the meeting was to allow all parents to ask questions.

I do agree that the constant testing that resulted from NCLB and now common core is a bad thing. Kids need to spend more time learning and less time testing, but as long as class room sizes remain large, learning is kind of a moot point.

[Priscilla Martin]

Part 1 of 5 Stop the Common Core - YouTube

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Dr. Terrence Moore Common Core testimony - YouTube

[haggardhouseelf]

What's happening here is very similar to what's happening with healthcare/Obamacare. It's top-down control of American's lives, rather than giving the people and their communities the right and the power to control their own lives.

We can't rely on the government to keep us safe and dry while also expect it to stay out of our lives. We can't expect the government to educate our children and then refuse to vote for higher taxes or renewing bonds, etc. We can't have it both ways.

We as parents do have options - send our kids to public school and abide by the government expectations - whatever they may be at any given time good or bad, or take full responsibility and pay to send your kids to private school or homeschool your own children. It's not as if relying on the government to educate your child is the only option.

[Silverfall]

Originally Posted by haggardhouseelf

What's happening here is very similar to what's happening with healthcare/Obamacare. It's top-down control of American's lives, rather than giving the people and their communities the right and the power to control their own lives.

Generally I agree with this sentiment, but the reality is that people are more mobile than ever before. It used to be that dad worked at the same company for 30 years so people didn't move as much.

It is really hard for kids that move across the country and are behind because their state teaches to a lower standard than their new school. Oregon used to teach a year behind the midwest and east coast. That isn't good for kids to have to work crazy hard to catch up, or get held back because of inadequate state standards. The flip side is also true that kids moved here from other states and were bored out of their gourds because they were essentially repeating a grade.

I have a good friend that consults with schools and she said, for whatever reason, west coast schools had lower standards than midwest and east coast.

I think accepting our new reality of highly mobile families and having some educational consistency for kids isn't a bad thing.