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Old 12-22-2014, 12:40 AM
 
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My husband and I are considering having a home built in Oregon City. We are considering using Adair to build a home because they can work with the budget we have but I'm wondering if anyone has any reviews about their process or the final product. Also, does anyone know of other companies with decent reviews in the area that can help us build an affordable home?

My other question is about construction in general. How much does it cost to get a plot of land ready to build on? I know this will vary from site to site and we don't have and land yet but I'm just trying to work out a budget. Some of the lots that we are looking at have electricity and water available and some do not. I am also pretty sure that we will have to deal with getting septic installed and could potentially be dealing with a lot of excavation work and even clearing land of large trees.

Any insight is much appreciated. Thanks!
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Old 12-22-2014, 06:59 AM
 
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I do know that if you run a line in the street and then down the street to connect into an existing city sewer or electric utility, the cost can be in the 10's of thousands - $40,000.00 or more.

And with a sewer, if your property is below the height of the city sewer, you need to install an electric sewage pump to get it up hill. And I suppose with all the environmental business lately, they will also want a back-up generator should the power go out?

Anyway I would STRONGLY suggest buying only a property with existing utilities. If septic is allowed and not yet installed, I would not be too concerned about that. That is a pretty much fixed cost - no "city street digging / construction involved".
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Old 12-22-2014, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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My husband and I are considering having a home built in Oregon City. We are considering using Adair to build a home because they can work with the budget we have but I'm wondering if anyone has any reviews about their process or the final product. Also, does anyone know of other companies with decent reviews in the area that can help us build an affordable home?

My other question is about construction in general. How much does it cost to get a plot of land ready to build on? I know this will vary from site to site and we don't have and land yet but I'm just trying to work out a budget. Some of the lots that we are looking at have electricity and water available and some do not. I am also pretty sure that we will have to deal with getting septic installed and could potentially be dealing with a lot of excavation work and even clearing land of large trees.

Any insight is much appreciated. Thanks!
I've only seen two Adair homes and they were not stellar construction. That was about five years ago. I believe they have improved their quality since then, but I haven't seen any new ones.

How much it costs to improve a lot depends on whether or not you are accessing city services or county services. It costs a lot to dig a well and bring electricity down a road. There will also be fees to tap into the sewer if the property isn't tapped into the main already.

If you are looking at acreage lots then a well can be anywhere from $5k to $30k depending on how far down they have to go to hit water. I don't sell real estate in Oregon City so I'm not familiar with the water situation over there. You'd want to check to see if there are any sensitive ground water areas out there.

If you are putting in septic, I would be worried about it. There is a standard septic system which runs around $5k to engineer and install. Sand filters run in the $10-$15k range, and mound/alternative systems will be around $20k. The type of soil and size of the land will determine which system will need to be installed.
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:06 AM
 
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Do you know why their quality has gone up recently? I was hesitant to consider them at first but after reading reviews online, everything as of late has great reviews. I'm just wondering what the change is.
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Old 12-23-2014, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Maybe they were able to hire construction workers (including supervisors), previously unemployed, who knew their stuff. During the housing bubble contractors hired people who were really inept.
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Developing bare land (well, septic, power, road) will run you anywhere from a low of $50,000 to over $100,000. Inside a city, besides connection fees SDCs will run normally from $25,000 to $50,000. Before you ever buy land, check with county planning to make sure you can even build there. Getting septic approval is another hurdle.
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Old 12-23-2014, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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Do you know why their quality has gone up recently? I was hesitant to consider them at first but after reading reviews online, everything as of late has great reviews. I'm just wondering what the change is.
Well there was a lawsuit several years ago against Adair for shoddy construction and mold growth. The buyers of the home won the lawsuit and about $500k in damages I think. I believe there were many complaints against Adair. I'm not sure how many other lawsuits there were. I'm assuming that they made changes to their construction practices as a result of that lawsuit/other lawsuits.
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Old 12-23-2014, 06:06 PM
 
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Well there was a lawsuit several years ago against Adair for shoddy construction and mold growth. The buyers of the home won the lawsuit and about $500k in damages I think. I believe there were many complaints against Adair. I'm not sure how many other lawsuits there were. I'm assuming that they made changes to their construction practices as a result of that lawsuit/other lawsuits.
Interesting, I think I remember reading something about that but I couldn't remember exactly what it was until you mentioned it.

So now my question for everyone is; knowing that about Adair, would you still use them knowing that have improved their quality or would you steer clear of them considering their past indiscretions?
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Old 12-23-2014, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Frankly I would steer clear unless you are buying a home 10+ years old and inspect the heck out of it. The reason for buying an older home is that its defects should be ascertainable. My personal opinion applies to ALL homes, not just Adair. Newer is not necessarily better.

I agree with others when it comes to building a house on vacant land.

When you build a home remember that the contractor is writing the construction documents and they will give the builder a lot of 'flexibility' as to the quality and timeliness of construction. If you have an architect design your home, prepare the specifications and you hire a builder of custom homes you have at least an even chance of getting what you want. Even then, during the construction phase, you need to observe and verify that what is specified is being built. My last home was constructed by a highly regarded custom home builder, even then the plumber took the drawings as a 'suggestion' - luckily the sewer line change was caught in time else the line would have been too deep to connect without a pump. The siding on one neighbor's house was installed backwards, the sewer line backflow valve was 'overlooked' on another neighbor's new house (I leave it to your imagination as to how that was discovered). Heck, we have even seen a siding contractor 'slip' underlayment to save on materials.

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Old 12-23-2014, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Mountains of Oregon
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Before you buy any land that you like, make sure you have water rights for the property & make sure you are allowed to build on this land.
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