the move to oregon or washington (land, areas, reservation)

[oregon911]

Originally Posted by PNW-type-gal

Most metro areas in Oregon are currently in a building boom - in the last couple months we have had an HVAC company, a landscaping company and an electrician out at the house and all of them have said they are desperate for people. The electrician and the landscaping company are booking jobs 2-4 months out because they have more work than they can handle. An experienced, competent and industrious worker should be able to get work quickly.

This kind of scares me. If we keep building like we currently are, soon our natural space (forests, open lands, farmlands and desert) will start shrinking.

[PNW-type-gal]

Originally Posted by oregon911

This kind of scares me. If we keep building like we currently are, soon our natural space (forests, open lands, farmlands and desert) will start shrinking.

That is what the urban growth boundaries are all about.

Plus part of the current boom is the absolute bust of, say 2007-2014 or so, when new housing starts were at an absolute standstill while population kept increasing. A lot of the new construction hereabouts is townhouses and apartments, which are really in demand.

[ccjarider]

Originally Posted by oregon911

This kind of scares me. If we keep building like we currently are, soon our natural space (forests, open lands, farmlands and desert) will start shrinking.

And this mindset folks is why Oregon remains backwards. One could build 10,000 houses in the Willamette valley and 98% of natural areas of this state would not be affected in any way shape or form.

[oregon911]

Originally Posted by ccjarider

And this mindset folks is why Oregon remains backwards. One could build 10,000 houses in the Willamette valley and 98% of natural areas of this state would not be affected in any way shape or form.

And this mindset folks is why people move to Oregon from the states that this very mindset has already destroyed. Yeah we can build 10,000 houses here, 10,000 houses there, no big deal, it's only 2%, and it keeps adding up, and 100 years later you look back and there is no nature left. There is a reason Oregon is desirable, or in your words "backwards" because we are protective of our nature and environment. You can't just build 10,000 houses and call it a day. The more you build, the more people come and the more people come, the more you have to build. Where do you draw the limit on how many houses you build? Also, if you think Oregon is so backwards, why don't you move to one of the more "advanced" states that like to build build and build everywhere to the point where the entire state consists of concrete?

[ccjarider]

Originally Posted by oregon911

And this mindset folks is why people move to Oregon from the states that this very mindset has already destroyed. Yeah we can build 10,000 houses here, 10,000 houses there, no big deal, it's only 2%, and it keeps adding up, and 100 years later you look back and there is no nature left. There is a reason Oregon is desirable, or in your words "backwards" because we are protective of our nature and environment. You can't just build 10,000 houses and call it a day. The more you build, the more people come and the more people come, the more you have to build. Where do you draw the limit on how many houses you build? Also, if you think Oregon is so backwards, why don't you move to one of the more "advanced" states that like to build build and build everywhere to the point where the entire state consists of concrete?

Geez - what melodrama. There are millions of beautiful places and acreage all across this nation. Oregon doesn't have a lock on "enviro -friendliness." What Oregon does have is a location that until recent history (last 50 yrs or so) made it too far removed from anything significant to bother going to. (In other words - it was in the middle of nowhere.)

Technology has changed that in some regards plus there are more people. It is just natural the people will fill into the relatively sparse areas. Your gonna have to deal with it.

[oregon911]

Originally Posted by ccjarider

Geez - what melodrama. There are millions of beautiful places and acreage all across this nation. Oregon doesn't have a lock on "enviro -friendliness." What Oregon does have is a location that until recent history (last 50 yrs or so) made it too far removed from anything significant to bother going to. (In other words - it was in the middle of nowhere.)

Technology has changed that in some regards plus there are more people. It is just natural the people will fill into the relatively sparse areas. Your gonna have to deal with it.

Just like you are gonna have to deal with our environmentalist laws, protectionism and urban growth boundaries. We are not going to build things in every corner like you'd want us to do.

[StealthRabbit]

Come on out to a Nationally protected scenic area (not even within OREGON borders, and enjoy being watched and reported daily by Oregon based scouts for "Friends(?) of the Gorge"

The Feds are EZ to deal with.... Others (who do not even live here) make life VERY miserable and cautious / on edge moment by moment.

I can expect a 'visit' within 24 hrs of changing ANYTHING within visual sight of OREGON. Landscaping, roof, paint, windows, light fixtures (including any light fixtures that can shine out a window). Such as a violation for having a yellow flatbed trailer (licensed as FARM) parked in a 'farm zone' Can't do such violations! naughty, naughty... we will have to fine you for that

Get used to it.

[ccjarider]

Originally Posted by oregon911

Just like you are gonna have to deal with our environmentalist laws, protectionism and urban growth boundaries. We are not going to build things in every corner like you'd want us to do.

ahhh maybe, maybe not. - Laws can be changed.

[Nell Plotts]

Every couple years a study is made of develop-able home sites within each urban growth boundary. There is a more than adequate supply. If infill sites are lacking the area of boundary area is increased where the need is identified.

What the urban growth boundary does is prevent skip development and development on precious prime agricultural land. It is cheaper to provide utilities, provide transit, and build roads within those areas than scattered developments.

Oregon has seen what happened in CA and elsewhere and has chosen not to repeat that.

[wolfdog]

Originally Posted by ccjarider

And this mindset folks is why Oregon remains backwards. One could build 10,000 houses in the Willamette valley and 98% of natural areas of this state would not be affected in any way shape or form.