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Old 11-10-2016, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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The woes of that library were reported on OPB a few months ago. I'm sorry.
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Old 11-11-2016, 10:09 AM
 
Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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The library issue here in Jackson County has been going round and round. In the depths of the recession, the libraries closed and the county (after a public vote) brought in a contractor to reopen them. Apparently they have just recently gotten around to looking at some of the contractor's policies (after the contractor was bought by a private equity fund) and realized some of them are problematic and are trying to ditch the contract and reopen under the county's control.

Jackson County library contractor takes heat - News - MailTribune.com - Medford, OR
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Old 11-11-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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What taxes have gone up for PERS? My taxes have not gone up, other than the statutory 3% a year for property taxes. Meanwhile, leaving a county without library services helps push an entire generation into ignorance.
Taxes are allocated and much of that allocation goes to PERS.
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Old 11-16-2016, 05:12 PM
 
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I really does vary... even with the Electoral Votes to Clinton much of the State did not vote that way.

In the SF Bay Area and just about every funding measure sailed right on through and it is going to cost thousands... just the new BART transit property tax is a 48 year commitment.

This election could very well have people moving to more like minded areas.
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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In LA a permanent 1/2 cent sales tax increase for transit, Propt. tax for parks, bond for homeless housing, bond for schools, bond for community colleges, all passed and it takes 2/3 for tax increases here.
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:13 PM
 
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It really was amazing to see all the bond and special assessments pass easily in Alameda County...

My property tax is pushing 11k on my 1725 square feet East Oakland home built in 1957.

More than I can count have retired to Oregon... must be a lot of Californians calling Oregon home... all the way from Medford to Portland with some out towards Bend/Sisters...
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:53 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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More than I can count have retired to Oregon... must be a lot of Californians calling Oregon home... ..
The Manhattan Institute, not surprisingly, argues that California Gov. Jerry Brown's proposed tax hike on the November (2012) ballot could spur more migration from the Golden State. We'll see if that is the case. But it's safe to say that the Beaver State will continue to be heavily influenced by Californians who are turning into Oregonians.
Report: Oregon No. 4 destination for ex-Californians | OregonLive.com

three of the 10 most popular out-of-state cities for CalPERS beneficiaries are in Arizona and three are in Oregon.Many Retirees Receive CalPERS Benefits After Leaving California | California Healthline


and...The Beaver State ranked as the worst place to retire, according to Bankrate.com.
Oregon got dinged for its cost of living (37th), below-average temperature and hospital bed availability, as well as its above-average tax and crime rates.
Worst States To Retire: Oregon, Alaska, Washington, California, Wisconsin At Bottom Of Study | The Huffington Post


YET, many folks still come (hundreds / month) (but maybe only 2-3 people come Feb - March)

Yes, rural taxes / costs / libraries / roads (AND INTERNET) is a wasteland.
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Old 11-17-2016, 10:37 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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I keep thinking about this thread. I wonder if Americans have stopped reading. Look at all the bookstores that have gone out of business all over the country.

While I am a library supporter, I am not in there very often. I haven't been in the library in Bend for several years, when I was there several times a week. I would be the only person in the stacks looking for books, but there are about 40 computers and all would be in use.

The library in Yachats I was in last spring, and again, I was the only one looking for books, but there would be up to 6 people using the internet.

Both libraries have excellent programs for children and those programs are well used.
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Old 11-17-2016, 10:46 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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One other thing to keep in mind is that politicians will ask for money for programs that people want and if they get the tax increase, they will take the money already in the budget for that program and move it to something else. So the voters get a higher tax and not one dime more for the program they voted to support.

Also, there was money in the budget, so even if they threatened to close the program, it is not terminated because there was already money in the budget. They just wanted more money.

Many of these tax bills don't actually allocate the money. The money goes into the general fund. So, you give them more money and you think it is for schools, but it doesn't get spent that way. Or, like in my area, they ask for funds far in excess of what is needed for the project, so a lot of the tax raise doesn't get used the way the voters thought it would be used.

After a while, some of the voters catch on to these shenanigans and simply start voting no to every tax increase.
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Old 11-17-2016, 10:55 AM
 
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Here the bulk of the new taxes for schools is to bulk up the underfunded retirement for educators...
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