Is the Coos Bay/Florence area the "Last Hidden Gem" of Oregon?? (Portland: sale, coupon)

[Metlakatla]

Originally Posted by BendLocal

Reedsport population is about 4K. The data says Florence passed that number around 1980.

Another false equivalency. Florence still had jobs in timber 40 years ago.

One third of the residents of Florence are retired. Without them and those who depend on their presence to make a living, Florence would be closer to the size of Reedsport.

[BendLocal]

Current Florence pop: 9k
1/3 Retirees: 3k
Subtract retirees = 6k or 50% larger than Reedsport is today.

What percentage of Florence retirees moved from Cali?

[Metlakatla]

Originally Posted by BendLocal

Current Florence pop: 9k
1/3 Retirees: 3k
Subtract retirees = 6k or 50% larger than Reedsport is today.

What percentage of Florence retirees moved from Cali?

Like I already told you, those who work at jobs that depend on the retirement population would need to be factored in. Losing the retiree population would impact everything from local restaurants to Peace Health.

You're welcome to call any real estate agent in Florence and ask where their clients are coming from. You're welcome to go into any public place in Florence and start braying about how Florence isn't attractive to California retirees and see how long you last before you're laughed out the door.

You misinterpreted something I said in another thread and have been hounding me ever since, trying to prove something with tenuous false equivalencies that you've obviously gleaned from frantic Googling whenever I make a post.

Could have been a good discussion, but it's probably better suited to a local social media page where people are more familiar with local conditions.

[xPlorer48]

We talked to a local woman in Yachats which is north of Florence, south of Newport. She is losing her rental due to it being turned into an Air B n B. She has been looking for another place to rent for months and is afraid of becoming homeless.

This is what is happening to the Oregon Coast. Vacation properties and second homes. Thete are new townhouses built near the Yachats River and she said they were built recently for the vacation home market. It is sad when locals can’t find places to live.

[Metlakatla]

Originally Posted by xPlorer48

We talked to a local woman in Yachats which is north of Florence, south of Newport. She is losing her rental due to it being turned into an Air B n B. She has been looking for another place to rent for months and is afraid of becoming homeless.

This is what is happening to the Oregon Coast. Vacation properties and second homes. Thete are new townhouses built near the Yachats River and she said they were built recently for the vacation home market. It is sad when locals can’t find places to live.

This may help your friend. Vacationers won't be able to live in these:

https://oregoncoast.craigslist.org/a...759124656.html

[pdxMIKEpdx]

It would be nice if we could shift the discussion focus away from retirees.

We all know that the Oregon coast towns from the CA border to Newport will soon be inundated with "retirees".

Coos Bay, however, is a little bit different, for reasons already noted in previous posts.

I know this thread is probably upsetting current retirees that want to keep everything the same as when they moved there, but let's all be realistic.

Not everyone wanting to move to the Oregon coast is a retiree, and Coos Bay is currently the best and cheapest option for many of them.

If people end up moving to Coos Bay, believe me, they will find a way to make it work.
Coos Bay is not "Elk Snout, Oregon" any more.

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by BendLocal

Current Florence pop: 9k
1/3 Retirees: 3k
Subtract retirees = 6k or 50% larger than Reedsport is today.

What percentage of Florence retirees moved from Cali?

Probably a lot. FYI Florence is closer to 1/2 retirees. The median age is now 60.4 in Florence, and it goes up every year.

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by pdxMIKEpdx

It would be nice if we could shift the discussion focus away from retirees.

We all know that the Oregon coast towns from the CA border to Newport will soon be inundated with "retirees".

Coos Bay, however, is a little bit different, for reasons already noted in previous posts.

I know this thread is probably upsetting current retirees that want to keep everything the same as when they moved there, but let's all be realistic.

Not everyone wanting to move to the Oregon coast is a retiree, and Coos Bay is currently the best and cheapest option for many of them.

If people end up moving to Coos Bay, believe me, they will find a way to make it work.
Coos Bay is not "Elk Snout, Oregon" any more.

Coos Bay has a limited number of jobs. People leave here everyday because they can't find jobs, and have been since the 1960s. If they could make it work, they would already be here. The only growth in Coos Bay is going to come from retirees, and self employed people.

[Cloudy Dayz]

Originally Posted by Terryj

Coos Bay over the last 150 years has seen it's times of "boom" and "bust", from Salmon fisheries in it's early days to lumber manufacturing up until the late 1980's. Coos Bay has the deepest harbor between Seattle and San Francisco, and in the early days they made use of it. Today, well, they still do shipping of lumber out of Coos Bay, but the lack of infrastructure make it difficult for Coos Bay to even compete within the State. There are no major highways that are suitable trucking access to the area and the rail system is a joke, trains are limited to 10 miles an hour, that's how bad the rail system is. Coos Bay now relies on tourism for it's major industry which is low paying, this is why the population of Coos Bay is aging, the younger population is leaving town to seek greener pastures. However, Coos Bay has been around since 1852, been through some good and bad times and through it all, it still is the largest city on the Oregon Coast, so it must be doing something right. It's a nice town, my wife and i always enjoy visiting Coos Bay and the Charleston area.

Here is a very good read about Coos Bay, past, present and future: A Brief Overview of the Coos Bay Area

I have no idea where you get your information. Coos Bay Rail Link has been completely rehabilitated in the last 10 years. It's a Class III railroad, which means the speed limit is 40 mph, not 10 mph. But even if it was 10 mph, it's not like that would hurt business. They don't transport anything that can't wait eight hours to arrive in Eugene.

Also the highways into Coos Bay are suitable for any trucks other then triple trailers. You make Coos Bay sound like the Third World. The infrastructure here is more then adequate.

[BendLocal]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

You're welcome to call any real estate agent in Florence and ask where their clients are coming from. You're welcome to go into any public place in Florence and start braying about how Florence isn't attractive to California retirees and see how long you last before you're laughed out the door.

Anecdotal information isn't a substitute for facts. The numbers don't support the characterization that California retirees are flocking to Florence or any other coastal town in Oregon. Nor would I expect them too given the major weather difference when compared to most places in California. If they were coming up here in droves there would be a population explosion.