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Old 01-01-2019, 09:52 PM
 
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I was reading the Wikipedia article on Medford's economy and it makes it sound like it's "Pot City"... is that true?

Has it raised the crime level and caused other problems?

Folks I know over in Colorado say the pot thing over there has brought a lot of problems (and apparently meth users) with it.
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Old 01-01-2019, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how the pot crop could affect a city. Maybe in Canada, where they are pretty much stuck with greenhouse growing, but in Southern Oregon the crop is all grown outdoors and as rural as it comes.

I took a look at the Wikipedia article, which is clumsily written. Before California legalized recreational marijuana, Medford was a popular stop to pick up weed for the trip north, or to buy some to take back to California. Now that weed is legal everywhere on the West Coast, there is no need to go to all that trouble. Idaho still has pot prohibition, so Ontario sells a lot of weed to tourists. We still stop on the California side of the border to buy hard liquor because it's so much cheaper there. Likewise, Seven Feathers in Canyonville benefits because it's the first casino north of the border, even though it's an hour and a half farther north.

Oregon made pseudoephedrine a prescription drugs years ago, so most meth production left the state. I have heard, though don't know, that most of it comes up I-5 from Mexico. My impression is that tweakers are less of a problem now than they were 20 years ago, because the last generation of users has died. Speed freaks live a brief and intense life and then die, which makes the drug self-limiting. Long term meth users have to be able to cope and dope, which is a pretty narrow trail to stick to.

I don't see how you can link pot and meth. There is quite a bit of legal amphetamine use in the school system, particularly elementary schools. Adderall is commonly prescribed for ADHD. I remain unconvinced that long term amphetamine use in children has a better outcome than long term use in adults.
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Old 01-02-2019, 02:09 AM
 
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I am surprised, honestly, how little legalization of pot has affected southern Oregon. The big impacts are farming, a great deal of it particularly in Josephine County, but in the towns (Medford, Grants Pass, Ashland) I would say the affects for non-users is basically nil. People who do use pot can get it more easily now with the dispensaries in town. I suppose that's a better situation than buying it illegally and supporting all the former black market activity. Medford looks the same to me know as it did before legalization... so, no, not Pot City. There was a significant meth problem a few years ago. That seems to have improved recently as Larry Caldwell says in the post above. I don't live there though, so I'm only giving basic impressions I have of the town.
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Old 01-02-2019, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Sebastian, Florida
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Folks I know over in Colorado say the pot thing over there has brought a lot of problems (and apparently meth users) with it.
I am continually amazed at the erroneous information surrounding legalization of cannabis, medical and/or recreational. Please, tell us what kind of “problems” your friends in Colorado are experiencing there.

Colorado has been one of the success stories among the numerous states that have legalized it. Drunk driving deaths are way down, tax revenue is way up.

And your comment about it bringing meth users shows you don’t don’t really know what you are talking about. Meth users want meth, not weed.

An anecdotal story about a small, over 55 manufactured home community on the outskirts of Medford:

Cannabis growers purchased the lot next to the park and the residents, mostly conservative, were up in arms about it. The grower held a meeting and explained what he was doing and how it works. Folks were mollified. Now, several of them work for him every harvest season trimming buds, making 20 dollars an hour. Sure, a few grumpy people complain about the smell, which only lasts a few weeks before harvest. They would probably complain about the fertilizer smell if they lived next to another type of farm.

Black market cannabis growers are another story, but they tend to seek out more remote areas.

As a senior who enjoys her cannabis, I find it very frustrating to continually have to refute vague claims of “problems” caused by this healing plant. Alcohol does far more damage than cannnabis ever will. For Pete’s sake, CANADA just legalized it! Have you heard about the collapse of civilization in the country to our north? Nope.
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Old 01-02-2019, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Can you provide a link to the Wikipedia article?
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Old 01-02-2019, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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The recreational legalization of OR marijuana in 2012 has been a special boom for area agriculture. Of the more than two million pounds of marijuana grown in the state each year, $2 million dollars a month is sold from Medford area retailers.
Medford, Oregon - Economy - Wikipedia
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Old 01-02-2019, 09:57 AM
 
Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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That does seem to be confusing the city of Medford (which actually has some serious restrictions on growing pot) with all of Jackson and Josephine Counties.

Pot and hemp were pretty much a mini-"gold rush" boom here after legalization because of the long growing season for the crop. Definitely it displaced the hobby winery as the prime buyer of smaller acreages, assuming the zoning designation was correct. It has always been a source for illegal pot grows, particularly up in the forest and way out in the counties. But for a while there, it was impossible to get a fence or electrical contractor because the supply of qualified people, which had dropped during the recession, was almost entirely sucked up in to the "grow" bonanza.

Now that the price has fallen so far (according to our paper it is barely more than "street" price to buy from a dispensary), both the dispensaries and the farms have started to close. There have been some rumblings about lobbying to send local pot and hemp out of state - hemp in particular, since the last Farm Bill lifted the restrictions on growing it.

2019: the year of hemp | Mail Tribune

Pot has always been big business in Southern Oregon and Northern California, legalizing it just brought it out on to Main ST. I think the coming year will see even more businesses shut down as the price stays low (and the barriers to selling it stay high).
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:27 AM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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The only thing I can add is a friend of mine who worked for a grange co-op farm supply type store in Medford told me how lucrative serving grow operations was to their business. It was staggering. Whole lotta fertilizer and such.
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Old 01-02-2019, 12:42 PM
 
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ignorant post. Has the OP ever bothered to read how people in Colorado are happy with their legalization? Has he ever done even a modicum of research on this topic when there is so much information out there? We always hope society will progress and people become more informed. Ugh
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Old 01-02-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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ignorant post. Has the OP ever bothered to read how people in Colorado are happy with their legalization? Has he ever done even a modicum of research on this topic when there is so much information out there? We always hope society will progress and people become more informed. Ugh
Things haven't really worked out as well here in Oregon as they have in Colorado.
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