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It's always wise to tell the attendant what fuel you want in your vehicle. If you say, "Fill it with diesel," they will fill it with diesel. Besides, you always have the option of diesel self-service in Oregon. If you are all that concerned, pump your own.
I use the Seven Feathers truck stop for gas in Canyonville. The attendants are just for people who are confused. You are expected to pump your own. Besides, if you go over to the casino and get a player's club card, you get a 3 cent a gallon discount. That's about 1%. Add that to the 1% cash back on a Discover card and it adds up over time. I have to agree that self service is faster if the station is busy, about the same if traffic is light.
My wife uses a Shell rewards card, at the expense of slightly higher fuel costs. Sometimes I'll fill up at a Fred Meyer or Safeway station, and get the dime a gallon discount.
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It's always wise to tell the attendant what fuel you want in your vehicle. If you say, "Fill it with diesel," they will fill it with diesel. Besides, you always have the option of diesel self-service in Oregon. If you are all that concerned, pump your own.
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Unsuspecting Out-of-state travelers who rightfully expect intelligent and informed fuel attendants have no clue about this., you always have the option of diesel self-service in Oregon.
BTW: You do NOT 'always' have the right to self serve diesel in Oregon. SS diesel is at the discretion of each fuel dispensary and each manager and each attendant. Many 'informed' and educated Oregon attendants do not know this law. Nor that Diesel is not a Class 1 Flammable I suppose few Out-of-state travelers know or care about the classes of flammables and Oregon's interpretation of who can do what with each.
The (17) rules for why Oregon has Fuel Pump Attendants This stuff happens worldwide everyday...at millions of 'gas-stations'.
The Legislative Assembly declares that, except as provided in ORS 480.345 (Conditions for operation of dispensing device by certain non-retail customers) to 480.385 (Civil penalty for gasoline dispensing law violations), it is in the public interest to maintain a prohibition on the self-service dispensing of Class 1 flammable liquids at retail. The Legislative Assembly finds and declares that:
(1) The dispensing of Class 1 flammable liquids by dispensers properly trained in appropriate safety procedures reduces fire hazards directly associated with the dispensing of Class 1 flammable liquids;
(2) Appropriate safety standards often are unenforceable at retail self-service stations in other states because cashiers are often unable to maintain a clear view of and give undivided attention to the dispensing of Class 1 flammable liquids by customers;
(3) Higher liability insurance rates charged to retail self-service stations reflect the dangers posed to customers when they leave their vehicles to dispense Class 1 flammable liquids, such as the increased risk of crime and the increased risk of personal injury resulting from slipping on slick surfaces;
(4) The dangers of crime and slick surfaces described in subsection (3) of this section are enhanced because Oregon’s weather is uniquely adverse, causing wet pavement and reduced visibility;
(5) The dangers described in subsection (3) of this section are heightened when the customer is a senior citizen or has a disability, especially if the customer uses a mobility aid, such as a wheelchair, walker, cane or crutches;
(6) Attempts by other states to require the providing of aid to senior citizens and persons with disabilities in the self-service dispensing of Class 1 flammable liquids at retail have failed, and therefore, senior citizens and persons with disabilities must pay the higher costs of full service;
(7) Exposure to toxic fumes represents a health hazard to customers dispensing Class 1 flammable liquids;
(8) The hazard described in subsection (7) of this section is heightened when the customer is pregnant;
(9) The exposure to Class 1 flammable liquids through dispensing should, in general, be limited to as few individuals as possible, such as gasoline station owners and their employees or other trained and certified dispensers;
(10) The typical practice of charging significantly higher prices for full-service fuel dispensing in states where self-service is permitted at retail:
(a) Discriminates against customers with lower incomes, who are under greater economic pressure to subject themselves to the inconvenience and hazards of self-service;
(b) Discriminates against customers who are elderly or have disabilities who are unable to serve themselves and so must pay the significantly higher prices; and
(c) Increases self-service dispensing and thereby decreases maintenance checks by attendants, which results in neglect of maintenance, endangering both the customer and other motorists and resulting in unnecessary and costly repairs;
(11) The increased use of self-service at retail in other states has contributed to diminishing the availability of automotive repair facilities at gasoline stations;
(12) Self-service dispensing at retail in other states does not provide a sustained reduction in fuel prices charged to customers;
(13) A general prohibition of self-service dispensing of Class 1 flammable liquids by the general public promotes public welfare by providing increased safety and convenience without causing economic harm to the public in general;
(14) Self-service dispensing at retail contributes to unemployment, particularly among young people;
(15) Self-service dispensing at retail presents a health hazard and unreasonable discomfort to persons with disabilities, elderly persons, small children and those susceptible to respiratory diseases;
(16) The federal Americans with Disabilities Act, Public Law 101-336, requires that equal access be provided to persons with disabilities at retail gasoline stations; and
(17) Small children left unattended when customers leave to make payment at retail self-service stations creates a dangerous situation. [1991 c.863 §49a; 1999 c.59 §160; 2007 c.70 §276]
2 OregonLaws.org contains the con*tents of Volume 21 of the ORS, inserted along*side the per*tin*ent statutes. See the preface to the ORS An*no*ta*tions for more information.
3 OregonLaws.org assembles these lists by analyzing references between Sections. Each listed item refers back to the current Section in its own text. The result reveals relationships in the code that may not have otherwise been apparent.
Good instruction here is you would like to know details of pumping... or use enough fuel to access a Cardlock account. (Only 900 / gal / yr, peanuts for us commercial fuel users. ) https://www.oregon.gov/osp/Docs/Card...0guidebook.pdf
So, driving home from CA to the Vancouver area fairly late last night. Pulled off I-5 to eat in Eugene and get gas just north of Salem around 10-11 pm. Passed by 3 big stations that were open. All of them had waiting lines for gas. The big truck stop just north of Salem (Pilot Travel Center?) had about 3/4 of their pumps closed and had barriers pulled in front of them so that everyone was funneled through just 3 rows of pumps that one attendant could cover. So there were 3-4 cars waiting for each pump and I had to sit there 10 minutes before getting up to the pump. The other two stations I passed were doing the same thing. Blocking off a buch of pumps so that everyone was funneled through a couple of pumps that just one attendant could service so there were waiting lines (in the Gateway area of Eugene).
I skipped getting gas in Eugene because the line looked long but found the same thing in Salem anyway. Is that a thing now where the big stations in Oregon close a bunch of their pumps late at night so that they can only keep a skeleton crew working? I was surprised to see lines at all 3 stations I passed looking for gas between 10-11 on a Monday night.
At any ordinary station in WA that time of night you'd just pull up and have your pick up pumps that time of night and be out of there.
So, driving home from CA to the Vancouver area fairly late last night. Pulled off I-5 to eat in Eugene and get gas just north of Salem around 10-11 pm. Passed by 3 big stations that were open. All of them had waiting lines for gas. The big truck stop just north of Salem (Pilot Travel Center?) had about 3/4 of their pumps closed and had barriers pulled in front of them so that everyone was funneled through just 3 rows of pumps that one attendant could cover. So there were 3-4 cars waiting for each pump and I had to sit there 10 minutes before getting up to the pump. The other two stations I passed were doing the same thing. Blocking off a buch of pumps so that everyone was funneled through a couple of pumps that just one attendant could service so there were waiting lines (in the Gateway area of Eugene).
I skipped getting gas in Eugene because the line looked long but found the same thing in Salem anyway. Is that a thing now where the big stations in Oregon close a bunch of their pumps late at night so that they can only keep a skeleton crew working? I was surprised to see lines at all 3 stations I passed looking for gas between 10-11 on a Monday night.
At any ordinary station in WA that time of night you'd just pull up and have your pick up pumps that time of night and be out of there.
At any ordinary station in Oregon at any time of the night or day, I can pull up and have my pick of pumps, and be out of there. I have no idea why you out of staters have so much problems with it.
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At any ordinary station in Oregon at any time of the night or day, I can pull up and have my pick of pumps, and be out of there. I have no idea why you out of staters have so much problems with it.
At any ordinary station in Oregon at any time of the night or day, I can pull up and have my pick of pumps, and be out of there. I have no idea why you out of staters have so much problems with it.
I don't "have trouble with it" I just found it curious. Perhaps it is the stations along the I-5 exits that get a lot of freeway traffic and not much local traffic so they don't care so much about customer service compared to the stations that local folks go to that probably aren't next to the freeways where there is a captive audience.
At any ordinary station in Oregon at any time of the night or day, I can pull up and have my pick of pumps, and be out of there. I have no idea why you out of staters have so much problems with it.
I have noticed that Safeway and Costco stations tend to be pretty busy because of the gas discounts. That's just market pressure, not related to self service.
I don't "have trouble with it" I just found it curious. Perhaps it is the stations along the I-5 exits that get a lot of freeway traffic and not much local traffic so they don't care so much about customer service compared to the stations that local folks go to that probably aren't next to the freeways where there is a captive audience.
I just find it interesting that visitors have so many problems with gas stations in Oregon, that Oregonians never have. If Oregonians had the same problems, it would be impossible to own a diesel-powered car in Oregon. Because the car would be wrecked by an incompetent gas station attendant, the first time they tried to fill it up. But that doesn't happen. Maybe the gas station employees just hate out of staters. But I never had a problem with them, even when I was a Californian.
I have noticed that Safeway and Costco stations tend to be pretty busy because of the gas discounts. That's just market pressure, not related to self service.
I don't fill up at Safeway or Costco because I don't like to put low grade gas in my car. But I shop at Safeway, and while they are certainly busy, I don't ever see any long lines waiting to get to the fuel pumps. From my experience, the the lines in Oregon are almost always shorter than lines in other states. In Oregon I never get stuck behind another car, who's driver is inside paying for their gas, and shopping for 10 minutes.
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