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Old 07-16-2020, 07:30 PM
 
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Albany is more blue collar, downscale, and insular. Corvallis is more white collar professional. That is why the price difference.

If it were me, I'd say that life is too short to live in Albany when you don't have to, and I would just try to make Corvallis work. But that's just me.

What you are looking for is actually going to be extremely hard to find anywhere in Oregon. Land use planning laws have restricted residential development on rural acreages since the 1970s. So you are mostly going to find older pre-1970s homes on larger acreages or new modern homes on smaller lots in defined subdivisions. Oregon is not like say Texas where large lot exurban subdivisions are super common.
I don't think I'd live in Albany, it would be North Albany, which demographically differs from Albany. Median income is higher and newer homes.

What about for a social life? Corvallis? I am in my 50s and divorced, so obviously older than the median age in Corvallis, which is skewed by the student population. But I need to live somewhere that I can meet people and have some sense of community.

I don't think living "in the middle of nowhere" will fly. It will be too isolating. And there can be other issues in rural areas... like guns, ATVs, etc
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Old 07-16-2020, 07:51 PM
 
Location: WA
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I don't think I'd live in Albany, it would be North Albany, which demographically differs from Albany. Median income is higher and newer homes.

What about for a social life? Corvallis? I am in my 50s and divorced, so obviously older than the median age in Corvallis, which is skewed by the student population. But I need to live somewhere that I can meet people and have some sense of community.

I don't think living "in the middle of nowhere" will fly. It will be too isolating. And there can be other issues in rural areas... like guns, ATVs, etc
Honestly. In your shoes I'd move to Corvallis or Eugene. I'm a 5th generation Oregonian now living across the river in WA and also in my 50s. Those are the only two towns in the southern end of the Willamette Valley that I would choose to live in if I was bringing my own job with me and I wanted a social life with interesting singles. Yes they are both college towns, but also have lots and lots of educated folks who have just stuck around and never left. Eugene is close enough to your adult kiddos. Basically an hour drive. Unless there is some reason you need to be much closer like if you are going to be free babysitting or something. I have a cousin who lives in Eugene and commutes to Corvallis daily for work.

There might actually be better options for small acreage living near Eugene than Corvallis. There are lots of hills in the southwest edge of the city with semi-rural subdivisions and such. Your price point will likely be the biggest obstacle.
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Old 07-16-2020, 07:59 PM
 
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Honestly. In your shoes I'd move to Corvallis or Eugene. I'm a 5th generation Oregonian now living across the river in WA and also in my 50s. Those are the only two towns in the southern end of the Willamette Valley that I would choose to live in if I was bringing my own job with me and I wanted a social life with interesting singles. Yes they are both college towns, but also have lots and lots of educated folks who have just stuck around and never left. Eugene is close enough to your adult kiddos. Basically an hour drive. Unless there is some reason you need to be much closer like if you are going to be free babysitting or something. I have a cousin who lives in Eugene and commutes to Corvallis daily for work.

There might actually be better options for small acreage living near Eugene than Corvallis. There are lots of hills in the southwest edge of the city with semi-rural subdivisions and such. Your price point will likely be the biggest obstacle.
No grandkids to babysit, but they both have dogs. And it would be nice to have someone to pet sit my dog. Yes I could be an hour away, I could even be in Bend, although then I'd see them less often. Not like you can decide at 5 pm to meet at 6 for a taco.

I did 4 years undergrad and 5 years grad school, so I understand wanting to be around other educated folks.
My main drivers for being out there are:
-proximity to my kids
- doing things outdoors- biking, kayak, hike, ski etc
-meeting single people
-also being able to do day trips, like you said to the Ocean in the summer and skiing in the winter.

I might have to spend more to get what I want in Corvallis. But at the same time, it will likely go up in value. Seems like everything is on the west coast.

I owned a house in Western NJ for 5 years, sold it for 10k less than what I paid. Also spent about $40k in property tax in that time span. Crazy
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Old 07-16-2020, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Thanks, I did not consider this possibility. I do not have to commute to a job. However, I do need to go to doctors appointments, restaurants, the gym (if I join one) or meet up with other people in Corvallis for mountain bike or road bike rides.

In the east coast, a hobby farm might be 5-10 acres. Any more than that and you could end up with a heft assessment, and in order to maintain a farm assessment you have to actually farm and show farm income. Thus you would need to either actually farm or lease your land to someone who wants to farm.

As someone else mentioned I would also need to have high speed internet. If there is no high speed internet that's a problem for my work
Oregon has both agricultural and timber property tax deferrals. My property is under timber deferral, which means the state pays 90% of the property tax. There is a severance tax when you harvest. All I have to do is submit a management plan to the county and grow trees. There are state foresters that will help you write the management plan. I don't know what the minimum acreage for that is.

Oregon property taxes are local and highly variable. In my area, they are almost trivial. In rapidly expanding urban areas, they can be pretty high. On comparable property, my property tax is only about 20% of Portland property taxes. I have no idea what Corvallis/Albany rates are. I don't recall property taxes being a big deal when I lived outside Jefferson. Your taxes will be higher in a city. Any real estate listing should give property tax amounts, and purchase price will not change them.

Internet will be highly variable. I was supposed to get fiber here in May, but the pandemic delayed that. It's supposedly still coming. Rural properties may or may not have decent internet. If all that is available is DSL, give it a pass.
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Old 07-16-2020, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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No grandkids to babysit, but they both have dogs. And it would be nice to have someone to pet sit my dog. Yes I could be an hour away, I could even be in Bend, although then I'd see them less often. Not like you can decide at 5 pm to meet at 6 for a taco.

I did 4 years undergrad and 5 years grad school, so I understand wanting to be around other educated folks.
My main drivers for being out there are:
-proximity to my kids
- doing things outdoors- biking, kayak, hike, ski etc
-meeting single people
-also being able to do day trips, like you said to the Ocean in the summer and skiing in the winter.

I might have to spend more to get what I want in Corvallis. But at the same time, it will likely go up in value. Seems like everything is on the west coast.

I owned a house in Western NJ for 5 years, sold it for 10k less than what I paid. Also spent about $40k in property tax in that time span. Crazy
Based on this, I think you want Corvallis. You just need to spend more on housing or go with less house. I would also suggest that you get involved with one of the many outdoor clubs that we have in the area. I know the Chemeketans isn't meeting right now due to Covid, but some of the other groups might be.
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Old 07-16-2020, 10:27 PM
 
Location: WA
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Based on this, I think you want Corvallis. You just need to spend more on housing or go with less house. I would also suggest that you get involved with one of the many outdoor clubs that we have in the area. I know the Chemeketans isn't meeting right now due to Covid, but some of the other groups might be.
I agree 100%. Life is to short to live in Albany just because you can get more sf for your dollar, especially if you don't have any professional job ties in Albany that would give you a local social network. It's one thing if you have a job there and have an instant social network. It's something entirely different if you are just moving there alone and don't know anyone.

If it is a matter of budget, just find a townhouse or something in a nice neighborhood with trails and walk your dog on leash like most people do. You'll be happier than in a semi-rural part of Albany with a big yard.

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Old 07-17-2020, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Salem, OR
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I agree 100%. Life is to short to live in Albany just because you can get more sf for your dollar, especially if you don't have any professional job ties in Albany that would give you a local social network. It's one thing if you have a job there and have an instant social network. It's something entirely different if you are just moving there alone and don't know anyone.

If it is a matter of budget, just find a townhouse or something in a nice neighborhood with trails and walk your dog on leash like most people do. You'll be happier than in a semi-rural part of Albany with a big yard.
The OP doesn't state if he has a German Shepard or Australian Shepard, but both need a lot of activity so I get the need for a larger yard. Corvallis allows dogs off-leash in 7 parks so they are just superior for dogs that need to run (assuming the owner has voice command of course).
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Old 07-17-2020, 04:51 PM
 
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Based on this, I think you want Corvallis. You just need to spend more on housing or go with less house. I would also suggest that you get involved with one of the many outdoor clubs that we have in the area. I know the Chemeketans isn't meeting right now due to Covid, but some of the other groups might be.
If there are hiking/skiing clubs that would be great. I am sure I can find a mountain bike group. Or people into riding gravel.

Having since looked on Zillow, I could probably find decent home in Corvallis in my price range. I could get more home in North Albany or Millersburg for the same $$, but what good is that if I am always having to drive out of the area to engage with people?

When I started thinking about a place to live- once I was free of the constraints of having to live in a major city like Boston, was to move somewhere that had easy access to great outdoors activities. For me that means cycling (road/gravel/mountain) and skiing in the winter. Hence I was thinking about Steamboat Springs, Colorado Springs, Bend etc. Lake Tahoe was also on the list. For now it looks like my kids are staying in Oregon, it's a nice state with decent weather. Boulder CO and Steamboat,, I am priced out now.
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Old 07-17-2020, 04:58 PM
 
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The OP doesn't state if he has a German Shepard or Australian Shepard, but both need a lot of activity so I get the need for a larger yard. Corvallis allows dogs off-leash in 7 parks so they are just superior for dogs that need to run (assuming the owner has voice command of course).
My dog is an English Shepherd. He is the size of an Australian Shepherd, about 50 lbs. He walks on a leash (often pulling me), but I also let him off leash if we're in a place where its safe.

Dog parks/play areas don't work right now, because he's got some reactivity to other dogs so he gets along with some dogs but fights with others. We're working on that with a trainer.

He does need some yard though, because he likes being off leash and sniffing around for animals. He will catch and kill small animals... including rabbits, chipmunks, squirrels. These are farm dogs and it is in their genes to catch and kill vermin. He caught a raccoon a few weeks ago and would have killed it, but I yelled at him and he let it go and it scurried away.

We are in a townhome now and it will likely be my last one. I don't like being packed in with so many other homes, I don't like all the rules and the monthly HOA fees. Townhomes might be OK with small breed dogs, this dog definitely needs a yard to patrol.
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Old 07-18-2020, 02:53 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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.......... And there can be other issues in rural areas... like guns, ATVs, etc

Oregon is a hunting and fishing state. No matter where you live in Oregon, your neighbors will have guns. There will be someone in your neighborhood who owns ATVs for their kids. That's a weak reason to avoid rural areas. I once had a sweet, gray haired, 80 year old tenant who owned guns and went deer hunting every year. She was proud of her marksmanship, and incidentally, lived in the middle of town.
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