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Old 04-07-2009, 07:46 PM
 
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Cause it will include ski/bike racks also.

http://www.leg.state.or.us/09reg/mea...2186.intro.pdf

This deals directly with Oregon so I posted it here even though it is a political bill.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:02 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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The only thing listed there that deals with motor vehicles (as opposed to heavy and medium trucks, which does not include most non-commercial trucks) is:

(d) Restrictions and prohibitions on the sale and distribution of after-market motor vehicle parts, including but not limited to tires, if alternatives are available that decrease greenhouse gas emissions from motor vehicles;

How that would affect bike- and ski-racks isn't clear to me (the provision that mentions aero drag applies only to medium (over 15,000 pounds) and heavy trucks).

ETA: I can see the aftermarket parts crowd not liking this one. It has that general CARB feel to it.

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Old 04-07-2009, 08:23 PM
 
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(d) Restrictions and prohibitions on the sale and distribution of after-market motor vehicle
parts, including but not limited to tires, if alternatives are available that decrease
greenhouse gas emissions from motor vehicles;
That part up there covers cars, don't be fooled by the wording. Thing is this would only be Step 1. If this passes more will follow!!

I know when I go anywhere I'm in my medium duty truck which is diesel by the way one of the greenest forms of transportation you can drive.

I don't think I want Oregon's government getting that involved into my personal life. The places I go and the things I do with my medium duty truck help support the communities I go to. Like Sand Lake area, Florence, Winchester Bay, and Coos Bay.
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:32 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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Ah, so you are basically trying to talk up something that doesn't even exist in the current bill, because in some future nebulous currently non-existent bill it might exist?

As I said, "medium duty" is a truck that weighs over 15,000 pounds. You aren't likely to have a ski rack or a bike rack on a truck that big. (For reference: Ford's Biggest truck, the F350 Crew Cab Powerstroke diesel, weighs 9,800 pounds.)
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:42 PM
 
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Alright you got me. Sorry to bring it up. You are right!! I'll just move along. Just figured people would want to know that are either living here or considering moving here that their rights will be infringed on even more. After all as stated in the bill this is an "Emergency" situation. It won't go any farther than just medium or heavy duty trucks and as stated in the bill, "vehicles"..

Dumb me.................
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:45 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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I require actual, you know, evidence to get worked up over something. Feel free to continue on your own.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:02 PM
 
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No offense but if history has taught me anything about certain things about the gov., local, state, and federal things like this are just a slippery slope. It best to get worked up over the little things so that they don't become bigger things down the line.

Hate to say it that even with this bill just because it is stated as and "Emergency" it will affect "all" vehicles. Trust me.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Heh, I wonder how they know it reduces emissions? Do they take the marketing materials into consideration?
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:07 PM
 
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I know Les Schwab is really fighting hard against this. Imagine how many people will/can be out of work if this passes??
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:07 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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No offense but if history has taught me anything about certain things about the gov., local, state, and federal things like this are just a slippery slope. It best to get worked up over the little things so that they don't become bigger things down the line.

Hate to say it that even with this bill just because it is stated as and "Emergency" it will affect "all" vehicles. Trust me.
Right, and I remember the screaming and kicking that went on over child seats and seats belts, and the dire predictions then, too. Granted emissions isn't quite the same level as safety features, but I think some of these emission changes are pretty inevitable in our future.

If you want to talk about undo financial hardship that this bill might cause farmers and small businesses, that's one thing, but just complaining about more "government intrusion" doesn't move me in the least.

Likewise, the aftermarket performance industry isn't going to be too thrilled with it, but they seem to have adapted under CARB in California, using the SEMA certification.

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