Orlando Jobs (Davie, Spring Hill: sales, to rent, health insurance)

[Soup Not See]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

My wife and I lived and worked in Orlando for years. Never did either of us earn minimum wage.

Wow Spring, thanks for clarifying that you two out of approx. 1 million workers did not make minimum wage. I also do not make or have never made minimum wage in Orlando, so now we have a total of 3. And to be clear, I'm not talking about the city of Orlando but of the Orlando MSA.

You can twist it any way you like, but Orlando is NOT a primarily low wage service economy.

Let's see ... who is classified as a service worker ?

Waiters/waitresses
Fast food restaurant workers
Theme park workers
Lawn care workers
Retail store employees
Hotel maids
Grocery/Convenient store employees

I'm sure there are more occupations I am missing. It's pretty easy to say that since Orlando is driven by a tourist-based economy, most of the workers in the Orlando MSA fit in the above categories and most of them make low wages.

Look around you. Do you see low wage everywhere you look?

Nope, not in my neighborhood x/c for the lawn services that come in and out. I doubt Tiger Woods ever saw too many low wage workers either x/c when he had breakfast at the Perkins. Do I have to live next to the low wage workers for them to be present in great numbers ?

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

My wife and I lived and worked in Orlando for years. Never did either of us earn minimum wage.

You can twist it any way you like, but Orlando is NOT a primarily low wage service economy.

Look around you. Do you see low wage everywhere you look?

I guess he forgot about Dr Phillips

Estimated median household income in 2009: $85,928

//www.city-data.com/city/Doctor...s-Florida.html

[Soup Not See]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

I guess he forgot about Dr Phillips

Estimated median household income in 2009: $85,928

//www.city-data.com/city/Doctor...s-Florida.html

Proves nothing ... even Buffalo has nice wealthy areas, despite having one of the lowest median incomes in the country.

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by leftee

Proves nothing ... even Buffalo has nice wealthy areas, despite having one of the lowest median incomes in the country.

So pretty much anything outside of the bay area, boston, DC, and Seattle is poor to you I'm guessing

[kyle19125]

I think the point is that there are a lot of low wage workers living here whose average salaries are buoyed by a small base of the uber-wealthy living in Dr Phillips, Windermere, Alaqua and Heathrow to name a few....many of whom aren't even full-time residents. It's pretty well documented that most retailers at Mall at Milennia would fold if they had to rely on local buying power, much like what is happening/happened at Orlando Fashion Square and Seminole Towne Center. Fast food chains, casual chain eateries and discount stores predominate. Why all the denial over the fact that Orlando is a low-wage city? It's kind of obvious.

[Spring Hillian]

Can you tell me what city, town, village does not have service workers just like the list you made with the possible exception of them park workers.

While we are on theme park workers, do you understand that the majority of the employees of a theme park do not make minimum wage?

I don't know where you think you live, but Orlando is a a city just like any other you will find. Always has been, always will be. Sure it grew like wild in the past 20 years, but that's the simple fact that migration takes place. It is nor never was some magical nirvana where everyone earns 100k a year.

Originally Posted by leftee

Wow Spring, thanks for clarifying that you two out of approx. 1 million workers did not make minimum wage. I also do not make or have never made minimum wage in Orlando, so now we have a total of 3. And to be clear, I'm not talking about the city of Orlando but of the Orlando MSA.



Let's see ... who is classified as a service worker ?

Waiters/waitresses
Fast food restaurant workers
Theme park workers
Lawn care workers
Retail store employees
Hotel maids
Grocery/Convenient store employees

I'm sure there are more occupations I am missing. It's pretty easy to say that since Orlando is driven by a tourist-based economy, most of the workers in the Orlando MSA fit in the above categories and most of them make low wages.



Nope, not in my neighborhood x/c for the lawn services that come in and out. I doubt Tiger Woods ever saw too many low wage workers either x/c when he had breakfast at the Perkins. Do I have to live next to the low wage workers for them to be present in great numbers ?

[DavieJ89]

Well the United States in general is a service economy, that means that nationwide its all "low wage" service workers right? It just proves Spring Hillian's point that Orlando is just like every other major US city

If all the people complaining about Orlando's "low wages" want to live in a nirvana where everybody earns $100k plus, move to Fairfax County, VA outside DC, they have a median income of about $102,000 as of 2007 and tons of "well paying, professional jobs"

Perhaps Kyle, and Leftee should check out properties there, and then go on the DC forum and talk about how being surrounded by people who all earn $100k plus is paradise

Back to Orlando though, I went Downtown last night and checked out Vintage Lounge, DiveBar, and Stardust Lounge and judging by the cars I saw and how packed it was, they were certainly not low wage workers out and about last night

[Soup Not See]

Originally Posted by DavieJ89

Well the United States in general is a service economy, that means that nationwide its all "low wage" service workers right? It just proves Spring Hillian's point that Orlando is just like every other major US city

Really ? And except for maybe Las Vegas, all of the other cities have the number of hotel/motels, timeshares, fast food restaurants & retail outlets PER CAPITA that Orlando does ? Not to mention the theme parks ...

Back to Orlando though, I went Downtown last night and checked out Vintage Lounge, DiveBar, and Stardust Lounge and judging by the cars I saw and how packed it was, they were certainly not low wage workers out and about last night

You've got a lot to learn if you think you can judge how rich someone is by the car they drive ... I have known or worked with many people over the years in Orlando who think having a great "ride" is of the utmost importance, even if they have to live in a trailer. Sure, there are some here that are wealthy that have nice cars. But the majority of the workers in the Orlando MSA are low-wage and some of them live at home with mommy/daddy and drive their parent's cars.

[Spring Hillian]

Originally Posted by leftee

SNIP.... But the majority of the workers in the Orlando MSA are low-wage and some of them live at home with mommy/daddy and drive their parent's cars.

What facts do you have to back your opinion that the MAJORITY of the workers' in the Orlando MSA are low wage.

[Soup Not See]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

What facts do you have to back your opinion that the MAJORITY of the workers' in the Orlando MSA are low wage.

The average male salary in Orlando is about 31K and 26K for a female. If you don't think ~$15 and ~13 per hour is low wage, ask yourself how those folks are making it in today's world.

Here's a link that, by my calculation, reports that 48% of Orlando's workers make less than 35K. That to me is very close to a majority and probably would be if you tossed in all of the illegals working under the table and struggling to get by.

Orlando Jobs (FL) | Simply Hired