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Old 05-17-2014, 09:57 PM
 
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Nope, just marketing gimmicks.

You need to see "whole grain" or "sprouted grain" or put it back on the shelf.

To be honest, wheat really doesn't have a whole lot of nutrition, you are better off with a whole multi-grain (preferably including quinoa and/or spelt which are both high in proteins.)
Isn't whole wheat a kind of whole grain, though? Usually, whole grain bread can be made of any other whole, complete grains such as quinoa, bran, oats, rye, etc, while whole wheat is specifically just made with whole, unrefined wheat. Correct me if I'm wrong. Although, I will say that I agree with you and find whole grain much more nutritious and satisfying than whole wheat anything.

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Yeah, I know. I started and managed a farmers market in Philadelphia while I lived there several years ago. "All-natural" however is used often in lieu of "organic" since many smaller producers can't afford the process of certification which is rigged against them by the USDA in favor of factory farming, which has little to no oversights.
Unfortunately, this is the case, sigh. While the USDA certification is clearly the safer bet, how does one go about supporting smaller and local producers and farms that don't possess the label? I'm assuming doing research on the actual practices of the specific farm in question would be the obvious answer, but how do you judge the credibility of said farmer(s)?
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:14 AM
 
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Unfortunately, this is the case, sigh. While the USDA certification is clearly the safer bet, how does one go about supporting smaller and local producers and farms that don't possess the label? I'm assuming doing research on the actual practices of the specific farm in question would be the obvious answer, but how do you judge the credibility of said farmer(s)?
I'm not so sure about the USDA certification being clearly the safer bet as I do not know of any recalls of grass fed beef for example, versus umpteen recent examples of "USDA-inspected" beef. Small farmers/producers I have discovered are very passionate about what they do for a living and have pride in their product. Farmers who produce in that fashion overwhelmingly live modestly and aren't in for the money so much, if they were they'd be producing conventionally for much higher yields and higher profit. To sum it up it's like a belief system and you're either in it as a producer, or not.
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Old 05-18-2014, 12:50 PM
 
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Isn't whole wheat a kind of whole grain, though? Usually, whole grain bread can be made of any other whole, complete grains such as quinoa, bran, oats, rye, etc, while whole wheat is specifically just made with whole, unrefined wheat. Correct me if I'm wrong. Although, I will say that I agree with you and find whole grain much more nutritious and satisfying than whole wheat anything.

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Unfortunately, this is the case, sigh. While the USDA certification is clearly the safer bet, how does one go about supporting smaller and local producers and farms that don't possess the label? I'm assuming doing research on the actual practices of the specific farm in question would be the obvious answer, but how do you judge the credibility of said farmer(s)?
Whole wheat is processed grain. In order for it to be whole grain wheat it needs to have those three words. Regular white bread can be labeled whole wheat if it has 1 tablespoon of wheat floour in it.

As far as how to verify if someone is actually organic, ask other local organic farmers. They help each other out, and have no problem naming the ones that are, and calling out the ones who claim to be but aren't.
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:53 AM
 
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[quote=Nevezan;34847472]Isn't whole wheat a kind of whole grain, though? while whole wheat is specifically just made with whole, unrefined wheat.

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That's why it's important to read the ingredient list rather than the face of the package.
Bread made from sprouted grains is much more nutritious like the Ezekial brand
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:55 AM
 
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Has anyone tried www.farmfreshdirect2u.com ?
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