Fortune ranks Orlando No. 1 for jobs growth (Miami, University: hotel, house)

[Spring Hillian]

If you find it consistently better elsewhere why are you still here.???

Originally Posted by kyle19125

Perhaps we should given that two of the three metro areas mentioned have significantly higher salaries and all three have as low or much lower costs of living.


Highest-income metropolitan statistical areas in the United States

17 Detroit–Ann Arbor–Flint, Michigan CMSA 5,456,428 $49,160

60 Reading, Pennsylvania MSA 373,638 $44,714

87 Orlando, Florida MSA 1,644,561 $41,871

185 Youngstown–Warren, Ohio MSA 594,746 $36,255



Cost of Living Index (100 = National Average)

Cost of Living Youngstown-Warren-Boardman, OH United States
Overall 78 100
Grocery 90.7 100
Health 84 100
Housing 46 100
Utilities 104 100
Transportation 95 100
Miscellaneous 95 100

Cost of Living Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI United States
Overall 85 100
Grocery 95.5 100
Health 99 100
Housing 58 100
Utilities 103 100
Transportation 102 100
Miscellaneous 97 100

Cost of Living Reading, PA United States
Overall 98 100
Grocery 100.9 100
Health 98 100
Housing 90 100
Utilities 112 100
Transportation 100 100
Miscellaneous 101 100


Cost of Living Orlando-Kissimmee, FL United States
Overall 98 100
Grocery 100.6 100
Health 93 100
Housing 87 100
Utilities 108 100
Transportation 101 100
Miscellaneous 107 100

[tinytrump]

QUOTE: Florida, as a whole, offers nothing for educated people who like arts, culture, interesting food, etc. The only people who would choose Florida over anywhere else, really, are people who cannot make it other places. The job market in Florida is horrendous. The public schools are a nightmare. Private ones aren't much better. The universities are just okay. Florida will continue to attract the dregs of society just as long as it continues to support low wage job growth. Well educated people with high paying jobs or even moderately paying jobs are not moving to Florida.It offers them nothing.

You must only visit your own back yard. between the Moffitt Center, Bascom Palmer, Jackson Memorial, the Space Center, Brickell financial area- University of Miami, University of Fl and so forth, to include the ports that move $27 Billion dollars worth of goods every year-it is NOT accomplished by the uneducated. You cannot compare the old DC, BOSTON, NY, Philly etc cities of the north that have been around 200 + years -to a new kid on the block growing daily in sports, arts, transportation etc. especially with old tired foggies who have controlled the politics. When the 70+ yr olds say good night for good, the baby boomers will get it done. And for not moving here? We sit at fourth for millionaire residents. CA-777624, TX-456,949, NY 429,153, FL 348,623

Where Are the U.S.’s Millionaires? - Real Time Economics - WSJ

[boy3365]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

If you find it consistently better elsewhere why are you still here.???

Amen.

[boy3365]

Originally Posted by everythingatall

The public schools are a nightmare. Private ones aren't much better. The universities are just okay.

Yeah, but all the Republican governors elected in the past 10 years including Rick Snyder are going to whom for education policy advice? Oh, Jeb Bush, albeit foolishly...

[kyle19125]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

If you find it consistently better elsewhere why are you still here.???

Trying to make it better by addressing the issues and not living in the head in the sand/delusional state you (and many others) are living in.

[kyle19125]

Originally Posted by boy3365

Amen.

Namaste...

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

Did "60 minutes" ask those people where they came from, what they did where they lived and what drove them to relocate anywhere when their skill set is limited to cleaning toilets or sweeping a floor?
Did they ask these people if they did their due diligence by researching what the job market in Orlando was offering? Did these people construct any kind of proposed budget before making a relocation?

Dont blame Orlando, WDW or anything else. Blame the people who didnt think before they jumped.

Surely if you asked most of them why on earth they relocated they would tell you that they could not survive where they were either.

As usual you talk out of both sides of your mouth. You're constantly bragging on here on how FL is becoming the 3rd most populated state.

As if that is a good thing.

As if some auto plants or software companies have announced plans to open plants or corporate offices in the area bringing in thousands of jobs. You have people moving down thinking they can survive on some $9 an hour service industry jobs or rely heavily on tips.

You see tons of posts on here by people who don't really plan their moves well. There are also many threads about how do I get a server job at Disney or a job in the park so my family can get in for free.

Again, how many times do you need to see an amusement park?

When I think of job perks, I think medical coverage, 401K, not free admittance to an amusement park.

These people come to FL because they think they can start over and think because FL has a lower cost of living than other states. Which might be true in regards to housing prices, is not true when it comes to other expenses. They don't do enough research.

And BTW, most of these people on "60 Minutes" were living in FL already, they lost jobs, didn't have savings to fall back on and ended up on hard times. They went from having a home to having a family of five sharing one motel room.

The focus was on dire things were for the ones who lost jobs and the lack of opportunity in the area.

So these weren't just people who came to FL and were living in motels, they were already FL residents.

With FL unemployment maxing out at $275 a week(doesn't mean you get that much) not the best place to find yourself down on your luck.

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

No arts? No culture? Tell me what is "interesting food". You are about 20 years behind on your opinion of public schools in FL. Dont you think it would be more than ridiculous to leave a high paying job anywhere to take a gamble in a new state?

In Detroit the percentage of people living below poverty level, 2008-2012 38.1%

Median household income in Detroit 2008-2012 $26,955

Home ownership rate, 2008-2012 52.6%

People with a Bachelor's degree or higher, agd 25+, 2008-2012 12.3%

Seems Detroit is just busting at the seams with high paying jobs filled with people with advanced education, and those who own a home. NOT. And with more than a third of the population living under the poverty rate I am sure that those great restaurants and arts venues are packed.

FL offers a lot of a lot of people. It is not going to turn minimum wage, undereducated and non-experienced people into high society.
They way you see it is 20 million people living in ghettos or in tent cities. What a joke.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Fl schools on the whole rank in the middle of the pack. Detroit can't even keep basic utilities or a police force functional

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by tinytrump

QUOTE: Florida, as a whole, offers nothing for educated people who like arts, culture, interesting food, etc. The only people who would choose Florida over anywhere else, really, are people who cannot make it other places. The job market in Florida is horrendous. The public schools are a nightmare. Private ones aren't much better. The universities are just okay. Florida will continue to attract the dregs of society just as long as it continues to support low wage job growth. Well educated people with high paying jobs or even moderately paying jobs are not moving to Florida.It offers them nothing.

You must only visit your own back yard. between the Moffitt Center, Bascom Palmer, Jackson Memorial, the Space Center, Brickell financial area- University of Miami, University of Fl and so forth, to include the ports that move $27 Billion dollars worth of goods every year-it is NOT accomplished by the uneducated. You cannot compare the old DC, BOSTON, NY, Philly etc cities of the north that have been around 200 + years -to a new kid on the block growing daily in sports, arts, transportation etc. especially with old tired foggies who have controlled the politics. When the 70+ yr olds say good night for good, the baby boomers will get it done. And for not moving here? We sit at fourth for millionaire residents. CA-777624, TX-456,949, NY 429,153, FL 348,623

Where Are the U.S.’s Millionaires? - Real Time Economics - WSJ

Correct. Miami is essentially the gateway to central and south America. Lot of trade and corporate stuff there in that regard.

Orlando outdid nyc two years ago as the most visited city in the country. Obviously with millions of international visitors a year, there must no arts culture or food scene

[annerk]

Originally Posted by everythingatall

Detroit is awesome. They have a world class art museum, beautiful art deco architecture, a vibrant arts community, a winning baseball team, a hockey team that the entire city supports, a basketball team that the entire city supports, a football team that, again, the entire city supports, super cool independently owned restaurants, casinos and some of the most beautiful/wealthy suburbs in the entire nation. Does Detroit have serious problems? Absolutely. But I would choose Detroit or a nearby suburb over anything in Florida. Huge bonuses for Detroit are that it's only a four hour drive to Toronto, one of the best cities in North America, and only a four hour drive from Chicago.

Florida, as a whole, offers nothing for educated people who like arts, culture, interesting food, etc. The only people who would choose Florida over anywhere else, really, are people who cannot make it other places. The job market in Florida is horrendous. The public schools are a nightmare. Private ones aren't much better. The universities are just okay. Florida will continue to attract the dregs of society just as long as it continues to support low wage job growth. Well educated people with high paying jobs or even moderately paying jobs are not moving to Florida. It offers them nothing.

Wow. So many things wrong with this post that I don't know where to begin. I'll say that we live here by choice, have high incomes and good jobs, have traveled the world so aren't provincially minded, and have found plenty of fantastic food, art and culture, and sports.

By the way, Toronto just isn't all that. I spent enough time working there that I have a Canadian Social Insurance card. If you think Toronto, Chicago, and Detroit are the best things North America have to offer, I think you need to get out more.