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Old 07-10-2018, 02:05 PM
 
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But their power grid was dilapidated and not well maintained before the storm. And PR was ill managed and heavily in debt. It's not the US government's job to fix how the island is managed and give them a functioning power grid. The island has to be reorganized and their priorities sorted out. But in the meantime, they are American citizens, so they should just relocate to the mainland and find jobs and places to rent.

And what happens when the next big hurricane hits? Why bother fixing the entire island if it sits in the middle of hurricane alley and they get a bad storm every 20 years or so? It's just not worth it to repair the entire island if another hurricane is going to eventually devastate it again. Focus on repairing and investing in the tourist areas and wherever the economy is healthy.

Being in the middle of hurricane alley is one of the reasons that PR isn't as developed or as desirable a destination as Hawaii.
Well when crappy infrastructure fails in the continental US, it gets fixed pretty fast.
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Old 07-10-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Citrus countyFL
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Power is back on in PR, they need to go back, or live on their own dollar and stay here. FEMA still paying for them to live here is total abuse.
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Old 07-10-2018, 04:01 PM
 
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A privately-owned steel tube supplier to the automotive and HVAC industries is looking to expand its workforce by as much as 21 percent
https://www.journal-news.com/news/mi...mYJl16nqjm6XN/

Hiring 716: Republic Steel hiring at its Lackawanna plant
https://www.wkbw.com/mobile-showcase...ckawanna-plant

Arkansas steel mill plans $1.2B expansion, 500 new workers
Arkansas steel mill plans $1.2B expansion, 500 new workers

Steel company JSW USA to add 1,000 new jobs: CEO
The steel company will invest $1 billion in Ohio and Texas facilities, it says.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/21/stee...-jobs-ceo.html

...on and on
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Old 07-10-2018, 04:19 PM
 
Location: West Florida
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A privately-owned steel tube supplier to the automotive and HVAC industries is looking to expand its workforce by as much as 21 percent
https://www.journal-news.com/news/mi...mYJl16nqjm6XN/

Hiring 716: Republic Steel hiring at its Lackawanna plant
https://www.wkbw.com/mobile-showcase...ckawanna-plant

Arkansas steel mill plans $1.2B expansion, 500 new workers
Arkansas steel mill plans $1.2B expansion, 500 new workers

Steel company JSW USA to add 1,000 new jobs: CEO
The steel company will invest $1 billion in Ohio and Texas facilities, it says.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/21/stee...-jobs-ceo.html

...on and on

While this is the case for some companies, lots of others who depend on foreign trade are still shipping thousands of jobs overseas. (See Harley, among many others.)

The reason for the shift from CHINA has little to nothing to do with our local political climate. Chinese labor costs have increased drastically from the early 2000s to now. A few years ago, the average cost advantage of manufacturing in China was only 1% over manufacturing locally. This was a few years ago. I'd assume now it's roughly the same, or even less. Of course this is incentive to get some of those jobs out of China.

Then, of course, there is our ever-so-wonderful fracking method of obtaining resources for gas and electricity, resulting in cheaper costs of fuel and electricity than in pretty much any other developed nation.

Tariffs are not "bringing jobs back," especially when we are talking about doing this to such places that are known to have "stolen our jobs over the years like Canada."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ring-thousands

https://money.cnn.com/2017/06/07/new...yan/index.html

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0a8ded67b75dd

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/ne...154829054.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/alltech...icism-scrutiny

http://fortune.com/2017/03/03/att-cw...southern-deal/

And on and on and on.

Some are coming back, as costs rise in some places, some are being outsourced.
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Old 07-14-2018, 11:18 AM
 
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It is when you treat Puerto Rico and Houston differently

Oh trust me, people in Houston wanted FEMA recipients out. I have family in Houston and they did not get warm open arm welcomes. They were trashing FEMA hotels. One of my extended family members owned a Best Western and the regional leader was advising owners to not accept FEMA money because too many franchisees were reporting chaos at their hotels from kids drawing on the hallway walls to others trashing the public spaces.
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Old 07-14-2018, 07:10 PM
 
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So you forgot Katrina and Hurricane Harvey in Houston. I know folk in Houston that were put up for a week BY THE GOVERNMENT. But of course since those are continental Americans you won't mind footing the bill as a tax payer. It's the brown U.S. citizens you have a problem with. Even by your own argument, PR's became homeless during the hurricane so what's your beef or are you just the typical ranting princess from your ivory castle in Dr. Phillips? lol

The key words being "for a week". Note that he said "long term".

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Old 07-15-2018, 07:14 PM
 
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The key words being "for a week". Note that he said "long term". We don't have a problem with "brown" people being put up for a week, we have a problem with any color being put up for a year.
Yet people don't care to throw American citizens to the street when power and water is still not restored after 9 months to PR? Listen, I can understand not everyone has a soft spot for humanitarian efforts so no need to explain yourself. Those that have it good don't give a flying flip about other's affected by natural disaster UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO THEM OR THEIR FAMILIES. Typical hypocrisy.
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Old 07-15-2018, 07:17 PM
 
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Yet people don't care to throw American citizens to the street when power and water is still not restored after 9 months to PR? Listen, I can understand not everyone has a soft spot for humanitarian efforts so no need to explain yourself. Those that have it good don't give a flying flip about other's affected by natural disaster UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO THEM OR THEIR FAMILIES. Typical hypocrisy.

On what basis are you claiming that power has not been restored to PR? Because there are still outlying villages without power? San Juan has power.
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Old 07-16-2018, 04:48 AM
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49 (!) deleted posts later, I can't believe what is going on in this thread. But I would really appreciate it if you guys stopped entertaining obvious trolling, you should know better than that. And if you don't, well, you deserve every punishment coming your way.
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Old 07-16-2018, 09:35 AM
 
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On what basis are you claiming that power has not been restored to PR? Because there are still outlying villages without power? San Juan has power.
Oh yes San Juan is the entire island. That makes a lot of sense when you don't live on the island right. Try that in Florida and say Miami and Orlando has power as well as 70% of the state but the other 30% who still don't have power doesn't count. I doubt it will fly.
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