Orlando Executive Airport Noise (Jacksonville, Miami: transfer, neighborhood, schools)

[WRM20]

The airport has been there since 1928. It's not a surprise that it's there. With 600 or more aircraft movements per day, it's an important airport.

[Arcenal813]

Originally Posted by WRM20

The airport has been there since 1928. It's not a surprise that it's there. With 600 or more aircraft movements per day, it's an important airport.

It was there to serve a military base that used to be across the street.
As it is now, it’s just a huge nuisance for anyone other than the ultra-rich, and it hinders the growth and development of Orlando’s core. At some point, it will inevitably have to go. It’s not an “important airport.” It’s being used only because it’s there, but it’s not a necessity to anyone. There are plenty of other options to park planes that are not in the middle of the city.

[WRM20]

Originally Posted by Arcenal352

It was there to serve a military base that used to be across the street.
As it is now, it’s just a huge nuisance for anyone other than the ultra-rich, and it hinders the growth and development of Orlando’s core. At some point, it will inevitably have to go. It’s not an “important airport.” It’s being used only because it’s there, but it’s not a necessity to anyone. There are plenty of other options to park planes that are not in the middle of the city.

The military didn't start using it until 1940, and the base you refer to(Naval Training Center Orlando) was built later than the actual airport. See history here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Executive_Airport

Where would the airplanes go? There doesn't seem to be a surfeit of airports in the area.

[brinkofsunshine]

Originally Posted by WRM20

The military didn't start using it until 1940, and the base you refer to(Naval Training Center Orlando) was built later than the actual airport. See history here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Executive_Airport

Where would the airplanes go? There doesn't seem to be a surfeit of airports in the area.

IMO the whole thing should be moved. I know it’s unlikely, but it’s the reason downtown Orlando can’t have tall buildings, and that’s a huge plot of valuable land. Move it to Bithlo or something.

[drive carephilly]

Originally Posted by Arcenal352

A year after moving here (roughly a year) I agree. It can be quite bad.

sorry. didn't realize that was from last year.

[drive carephilly]

Originally Posted by WRM20

The military didn't start using it until 1940, and the base you refer to(Naval Training Center Orlando) was built later than the actual airport. See history here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Executive_Airport

Where would the airplanes go? There doesn't seem to be a surfeit of airports in the area.

The history of the airport is irrelevant. In 1928 Orlando was just a town with an airport on its fringe. There's a major city here now. Having a 1,000 acre noisemaking, non-revenue producing, traffic complicating hole 3 miles from downtown isn't a good move.

There's more than enough room at Sanford and Kissimmee to split the traffic from ORL. Sanford is comically large and underused. There's enough room to add a 2nd runway to Apopka. DeLand and Titusville and New Smyrna also all have perfectly serviceable, general aviation airports. Closing ORL isn't going to hurt anyone.

[WRM20]

Originally Posted by drive carephilly

The history of the airport is irrelevant. In 1928 Orlando was just a town with an airport on its fringe. There's a major city here now. Having a 1,000 acre noisemaking, non-revenue producing, traffic complicating hole 3 miles from downtown isn't a good move.

There's more than enough room at Sanford and Kissimmee to split the traffic from ORL. Sanford is comically large and underused. There's enough room to add a 2nd runway to Apopka. DeLand and Titusville and New Smyrna also all have perfectly serviceable, general aviation airports. Closing ORL isn't going to hurt anyone.

Non-revenue producing? All airports produce revenue.

[drive carephilly]

Originally Posted by WRM20

Non-revenue producing? All airports produce revenue.

Passenger airports run a profit. ORL is not one of those. Maybe it creates a small surplus but is it a bigger bottom line vs. what could be there and not just there on the airport site because the airport restricts development as far away as downtown and has severe restrictions within a 1/2 mile.

But yeah, I'm happy to change my mind if someone wants me to show a budget for ORL that isn't hidden inside the numbers for MCO.

[WRM20]

Originally Posted by drive carephilly

Passenger airports run a profit. ORL is not one of those. Maybe it creates a small surplus but is it a bigger bottom line vs. what could be there and not just there on the airport site because the airport restricts development as far away as downtown and has severe restrictions within a 1/2 mile.

But yeah, I'm happy to change my mind if someone wants me to show a budget for ORL that isn't hidden inside the numbers for MCO.

Page 3. Took 15 seconds to find https://orlandoairports.net/site/upl...get_FY2020.pdf

[Arcenal813]

Originally Posted by WRM20

Page 3. Took 15 seconds to find https://orlandoairports.net/site/upl...get_FY2020.pdf

This pretty much proves drive carephilly’s point. Those numbers are awful. When considering the piece of land it sits on and what could potentially be there instead, it makes it even worse. They're spending more on security than they bring in on aviation-related activities. Over half of their revenue is from commercial properties (read: rentals and storage.)